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At 10:27 PM 1/29/02 -0500, Alan Fairclough wrote:
>Lately I have noticed a problem with my brakes.

The 'lately' is a clue. I'm assuming that the Cleveland conversion
was done right. That is, the hard-line leading to the brake-block
has been removed and replaced with a hose (originally there was
a hose only at the knuckle joint). Cleveland brake blocks 'float'
so require hose all the way between the brake block and the
fitting that comes out of the wing. Otherwise, they'll drag. And
eventually bust the aluminum line.

Another clue is that the problem is implied to be symmetrical. That
means it's somewhere before the tee under your butt, which
kind of eliminates the calipers.

Outside chance, I guess, of brake fluid that has been contaminated,
and has turned into a sticky, gloppy mess. Or the wrong kind of
brake fluid. You DID use the right kind, right?

>They work great and hold just fine but when I try to back the plane into
the
>hangar they do not release completely and it takes all my pushing to get
the
>plane to move. When I pull the planer out next day they are OK.
>I am thinking maybe an air bubble in the system that is keeping pressure
in
>the lines. Maybe it is the master cyliinder check valve that is
sticking...

An air bubble keeps the brakes from working (i.e., sponginess). It doesn't
stop them from releasing.

One thing to try. Hook your toe under the pedal, and see if you can lift
it up. If you can, something is amiss.

The problem might be physical. The most frequent failure mode for the
master cylinder is right at the shaft. If it's seeping a bit there, the
sticky
brake fluid could easily keep the master cylinder from returning properly.
What about a weak return spring in the master cylinder? Or maybe something
has compromise the parking brake, and is causing it to stick. Do you have
the more common cable arrangement (which can be interfered with by a
loose bit of interior), or a parking brake check-valve (which could get 
obstructed).

Now, if the brake line between the master cylinder and the tee under your
butt
is obstructed or kinked, the brakes might work (stomping on the brake
makes
a LOT of pressure) fine, but the flow of fluid back to the master cylinder

might
be slower than it should be. Take up the floorboard on the pilot's side
and
see if something went bad there. Maybe blow that line out with compressed
air.

>Any suggestions which I try first?

Alan, if you're going to dig into that area, you may as well call Lee at 
Skyport and
get the new master cylinder STC. Chances are 2 in 3 that it has to do with
that
component anyway. Damned thing is 56 years old! And even checking out the 
state
of the lines (beyond physical damage) involves doing 80% of the work of 
installing
the STC. 80% of the work is lifting the floor, reassembling it, and 
bleeding the
system.

Be smarter than I was: get the improved brake reservoir STC at the same 
time, to
eliminate the stupid PET milk container. Again, once you are pulling
things 
apart
and bleeding the brakes, might as well set them up first-class while doing
that 80% overhead.

Oh, you'll likely need the hose that runs from the master cylinder to the 
hard-line.
Yours will be cracked and rotten, and you won't want to re-use it. Besides

it will
have to bend into a different shape for the new cylinder anyway, and after
all
these years, it has taken a 'set' that will fail it when you try to 
install. So order
up that hose. The length is a little different. If your A&P is set up to 
make up
custom hoses, so much the better. Get the bits from Aircraft Spruce and
sort
it out in the field.

Let me tell you, you WILL love the way the brakes feel with the STC. Nice,
smooth, progressive feel that allows for lots more shades of grey between
'off' and 'locked.'  Every bit as good as a 'modern' plane.

Just do it, because it's winter and not great flying now. Believe me, it's

better
than spending a good flying weekend doing the STC after your ancient
master
cylinder explodes during the summer. And you're going to be doing a 
recto-cranial
inversion to get under there anyway. Trust me, it's not so much fun in
July!

Greg

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