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"Those who would trade Liberty for Security end up with neither".
                                                                -Benjamin
Franklin

AOPA is objecting to this legislation for good reason. It does no good to 
sponsor rules for the government to build yet another database on
Americans.
Who would be in charge of the list & security.. the same agency that
issued 
Mohammed Attah an extension on his Visa's 6months AFTER 911?? The same 
bureaucrats that want to close Meigs for use as a bird refuge??!! 
Be careful what you give up- you will NEVER get it back.
Let's not panic and give up the Freedoms that makes this country great. 
If we do the terrorists will have already won..

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Wilkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:36 AM
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I for one think it's a good idea to have this kind of background check.
The
only ones that should be offended are those with the criminal past that
they
are looking for.  It's a shame that circumstances now require that we lose
a
little more of our freedom, but I am willing to give up a little freedom
so
that I can feel a little more free.  And yes, I'm also one of those that
support legislation that requires a drivers license to drive a boat.

Larry
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This was posted at AOPA's site. Thought it might be of some interest.

Mike Dean
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MORE STATES REQUIRING CRIMINAL CHECKS, AOPA SAYS

In what has become an alarming trend, New York recently became the seventh
state to consider legislation requiring criminal background checks before
an
individual can receive flight instruction. Only Michigan has enacted such
a
requirement where members are telling AOPA they are being treated like
criminals, subject to the whims of local law enforcement offices and
facing
bureaucratic red tape."Michigan's law is not the way to encourage a new
student pilot who is enthusiastic about learning to fly and certificated
pilots needing dual instruction." commented Andy Cebula, AOPA's senior
vice
president for Government and Technical Affairs. Last week the New York
Assembly approved a measure, A.B. 11863, requiring criminal history
records
checks for individuals seeking to learn to fly, to obtain flight training
for an advanced rating or certificate, or even obtain basic recurrent
training such as a flight review or instrument proficiency check. AOPA has
raised its objections to the legislation in a letter to the committee and
argues that states should not be in the role of regulating a federally
controlled activity like flight training.

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