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And, I do respect old Ben Franklin.  He was fortunate to live in a time
where black was black, and white was white.  Open up your eyes!!!  The
rules
have changed.  There are none so blind as those who will not see!  You
most
likely object to the fact that you only have a 25% chance of sneaking your
concealed weapon onto an airplane because of the new security measures
they've enacted since 9-11.  I love America, not because she takes away my
freedoms, but because she gives me the freedom to feel safe.  When
individuals out there try to take away my safety, I love America because
she
acts to stop their actions.  Open your eyes!  We will never have the
freedoms we had only one year ago.  Would you like to have it be the way
it
was on 9-11....Over...and Over....and Over?

Larry
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> "Those who would trade Liberty for Security end up with neither".
> -Benjamin
> Franklin
>
> AOPA is objecting to this legislation for good reason. It does no good
to
> sponsor rules for the government to build yet another database on
Americans.
> Who would be in charge of the list & security.. the same agency that
issued
> Mohammed Attah an extension on his Visa's 6months AFTER 911?? The same
> bureaucrats that want to close Meigs for use as a bird refuge??!!
> Be careful what you give up- you will NEVER get it back.
> Let's not panic and give up the Freedoms that makes this country great.
> If we do the terrorists will have already won..
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Wilkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:36 AM
> To: Mike Dean; Bud & Gladys Weisbrod; Dean, Dave & Lynnette; Ercoupers;
> IWAviators; Sonex Builders List; Warbird Information Exchange; Bob Hall
> (work); Bob Lumbly; Gary Markley (work); Sally Hall; Tom Collins; Dave
> Cooley; Jim Hinkle; John Hermann; Kate Kazmareck; Le Roy Stuczynski;
> Peter Moll; Bob Cushman; Chris Heitman; Keith Lee; Rick Martin; Steve
> Sorge; Todd Dailing
> Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Off Topic: This just in from AOPA
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>
> I for one think it's a good idea to have this kind of background check.
The
> only ones that should be offended are those with the criminal past that
they
> are looking for.  It's a shame that circumstances now require that we
lose
a
> little more of our freedom, but I am willing to give up a little freedom
so
> that I can feel a little more free.  And yes, I'm also one of those that
> support legislation that requires a drivers license to drive a boat.
>
> Larry
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> This was posted at AOPA's site. Thought it might be of some interest.
>
> Mike Dean
>
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>
> MORE STATES REQUIRING CRIMINAL CHECKS, AOPA SAYS
>
> In what has become an alarming trend, New York recently became the
seventh
> state to consider legislation requiring criminal background checks
before
an
> individual can receive flight instruction. Only Michigan has enacted
such
a
> requirement where members are telling AOPA they are being treated like
> criminals, subject to the whims of local law enforcement offices and
facing
> bureaucratic red tape."Michigan's law is not the way to encourage a new
> student pilot who is enthusiastic about learning to fly and certificated
> pilots needing dual instruction." commented Andy Cebula, AOPA's senior
vice
> president for Government and Technical Affairs. Last week the New York
> Assembly approved a measure, A.B. 11863, requiring criminal history
records
> checks for individuals seeking to learn to fly, to obtain flight
training
> for an advanced rating or certificate, or even obtain basic recurrent
> training such as a flight review or instrument proficiency check. AOPA
has
> raised its objections to the legislation in a letter to the committee
and
> argues that states should not be in the role of regulating a federally
> controlled activity like flight training.
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