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Just another of our "Freedoms".... Freedom of speech. As I watch the beautiful Wasatch Mountains burn to the ground, I see our local governments taking away another of my freedoms. The freedom to go camping and light a camp fire, and of course, I've lost the freedom to do fireworks this year.....Think I'll go out and show them suckers they can't make me refrain from those things! Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Timm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Larry Wilkins'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Anthony Timm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mike Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bud & Gladys Weisbrod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dean, Dave & Lynnette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ercoupers" <[email protected]>; "IWAviators" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Sonex Builders List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Warbird Information Exchange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bob Hall (work)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bob Lumbly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gary Markley (work)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Sally Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tom Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dave Cooley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jim Hinkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "John Hermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kate Kazmareck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Le Roy Stuczynski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Peter Moll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bob Cushman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Chris Heitman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Keith Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Rick Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Steve Sorge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Todd Dailing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:22 AM Subject: RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Off Topic: This just in from AOPA > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any advice in this forum.]---- > > > YOU WROTE: "black was black, and white was white. Open up your eyes!!!" ??? > > Are you serious?? Slavery was still LEGAL- for another 100years!! > Black and white huh.. boy you sure are confused. > Not only that- but you accuse me of: "You most likely object to the fact > that > you only have a 25% chance of sneaking your concealed weapon onto an > airplane". > You don't even know me and you make a statement like that????? > Shame on you for flaming another member of your group that doesn't happen to > > agree with your opinion. Is this part of YOUR America?.. No thanks- > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Wilkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 9:41 AM > To: Anthony Timm; Mike Dean; Bud & Gladys Weisbrod; Dean, Dave & > Lynnette; Ercoupers; IWAviators; Sonex Builders List; Warbird > Information Exchange; Bob Hall (work); Bob Lumbly; Gary Markley (work); > Sally Hall; Tom Collins; Dave Cooley; Jim Hinkle; John Hermann; Kate > Kazmareck; Le Roy Stuczynski; Peter Moll; Bob Cushman; Chris Heitman; > Keith Lee; Rick Martin; Steve Sorge; Todd Dailing > Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Off Topic: This just in from AOPA > > > And, I do respect old Ben Franklin. He was fortunate to live in a time > where black was black, and white was white. Open up your eyes!!! The rules > have changed. There are none so blind as those who will not see! You most > likely object to the fact that you only have a 25% chance of sneaking your > concealed weapon onto an airplane because of the new security measures > they've enacted since 9-11. I love America, not because she takes away my > freedoms, but because she gives me the freedom to feel safe. When > individuals out there try to take away my safety, I love America because she > acts to stop their actions. Open your eyes! We will never have the > freedoms we had only one year ago. Would you like to have it be the way it > was on 9-11....Over...and Over....and Over? > > Larry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anthony Timm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Larry Wilkins'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mike Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > "Bud & Gladys Weisbrod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dean, Dave & Lynnette" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ercoupers" <[email protected]>; "IWAviators" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Sonex Builders List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Warbird Information Exchange" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bob Hall > (work)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bob Lumbly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > "Gary Markley (work)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Sally Hall" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tom Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dave Cooley" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jim Hinkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "John Hermann" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kate Kazmareck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Le > Roy Stuczynski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Peter Moll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bob > Cushman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Chris Heitman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Keith Lee" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Rick Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Steve Sorge" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Todd Dailing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:04 AM > Subject: RE: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Off Topic: This just in from AOPA > > > > "Those who would trade Liberty for Security end up with neither". > > -Benjamin > > Franklin > > > > AOPA is objecting to this legislation for good reason. It does no good to > > sponsor rules for the government to build yet another database on > Americans. > > Who would be in charge of the list & security.. the same agency that > issued > > Mohammed Attah an extension on his Visa's 6months AFTER 911?? The same > > bureaucrats that want to close Meigs for use as a bird refuge??!! > > Be careful what you give up- you will NEVER get it back. > > Let's not panic and give up the Freedoms that makes this country great. > > If we do the terrorists will have already won.. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Larry Wilkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 8:36 AM > > To: Mike Dean; Bud & Gladys Weisbrod; Dean, Dave & Lynnette; Ercoupers; > > IWAviators; Sonex Builders List; Warbird Information Exchange; Bob Hall > > (work); Bob Lumbly; Gary Markley (work); Sally Hall; Tom Collins; Dave > > Cooley; Jim Hinkle; John Hermann; Kate Kazmareck; Le Roy Stuczynski; > > Peter Moll; Bob Cushman; Chris Heitman; Keith Lee; Rick Martin; Steve > > Sorge; Todd Dailing > > Subject: Re: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Off Topic: This just in from AOPA > > > > > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any > > advice in this forum.]---- > > > > > > I for one think it's a good idea to have this kind of background check. > The > > only ones that should be offended are those with the criminal past that > they > > are looking for. It's a shame that circumstances now require that we lose > a > > little more of our freedom, but I am willing to give up a little freedom > so > > that I can feel a little more free. And yes, I'm also one of those that > > support legislation that requires a drivers license to drive a boat. > > > > Larry > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Bud & Gladys Weisbrod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dean, Dave & > Lynnette" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ercoupers" <[email protected]>; "IWAviators" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Sonex Builders List" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Warbird Information Exchange" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bob Hall > > (work)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bob Lumbly" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > "Gary Markley (work)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Sally Hall" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tom Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Dave > Cooley" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jim Hinkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "John Hermann" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kate Kazmareck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Le > > Roy Stuczynski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Peter Moll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > "Bob > > Cushman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Chris Heitman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Keith > Lee" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Rick Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Steve Sorge" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Todd Dailing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 7:14 AM > > Subject: [COUPERS-FLYIN] Off Topic: This just in from AOPA > > > > > > ----[Please read http://ercoupers.com/disclaimer.htm before following any > > advice in this forum.]---- > > > > > > This was posted at AOPA's site. Thought it might be of some interest. > > > > Mike Dean > > > __________________________________________________________________________ __ > > _______________________________________________ > > > > MORE STATES REQUIRING CRIMINAL CHECKS, AOPA SAYS > > > > In what has become an alarming trend, New York recently became the seventh > > state to consider legislation requiring criminal background checks before > an > > individual can receive flight instruction. Only Michigan has enacted such > a > > requirement where members are telling AOPA they are being treated like > > criminals, subject to the whims of local law enforcement offices and > facing > > bureaucratic red tape."Michigan's law is not the way to encourage a new > > student pilot who is enthusiastic about learning to fly and certificated > > pilots needing dual instruction." commented Andy Cebula, AOPA's senior > vice > > president for Government and Technical Affairs. Last week the New York > > Assembly approved a measure, A.B. 11863, requiring criminal history > records > > checks for individuals seeking to learn to fly, to obtain flight training > > for an advanced rating or certificate, or even obtain basic recurrent > > training such as a flight review or instrument proficiency check. AOPA has > > raised its objections to the legislation in a letter to the committee and > > argues that states should not be in the role of regulating a federally > > controlled activity like flight training. > > > > ====================== > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > ================================================================== > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > > > > > > > ================================================================== > TO UNSUBSCRIBE go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm > > > ================================================================== TO UNSUBSCRIBE go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm
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