In a message dated: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 07:18:43 EST
Rich Payne said:

>On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Ferenc Tamas Gyurcsan wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> >WINE or whether this is still not polished enough to impress business users
>> >(I haven't used it or tracked it to know how slick it's getting to be - 
>> >anyone?)
>> 
>> I tried to use it about a year ago. Maybe it wasn't the latest release, but 
>> I wasn't impressed. I tried and older MathCad (maybe 6.0), but it didn't
>> work very well. I rather installed Maple for Linux:-). Maybe vmware  could
>> be tried. Does anyone need a GIS system? I just found GRASS. Cheaper than 
>> ArcInfo:-).

>It's easy not to be impressed with Wine, after all it only works with some
>programs, and even then they don't always work properly. Wine is
>constantly in change, it's a massive project to write an API translator
>for a set of APIs that are not documented (properly if at all) and that
>have major differences between versions (Win95/98/NT etc....). Also, a
>year is a long time, especially in Wine terms.

I have to agree with Rich, and also add that Wine is not one of those things 
that you "just try" and either "like it or don't like it".  It's more one of 
those things that you constantly fight, futz, and play with, constantly tune 
and tweak until you get that one app you need working.  And if you can't, you 
wait until the next release (usually within a week) and try again.  If you're 
really good, then you send a crash dump analysis back to the wine dev team to 
help them out.  I usually wait a couple of months before going back and 
and trying a new release.

Also, keep in mind, Wine is strictly *ALPHA* code.  That alone means that it 
probably won't be polished, pretty, stable, or even work in many cases.  It's 
there if you want to play with it, but don't necessarilly count on it.

That being said, I finally got Quicken4 up and running under Wine, and it 
seems pretty stable.  The only thing that doesn't seem to work is the "File->
Open" process, everything else though, seems to work actually faster than it 
did under Win3.11 (which is the only OS I've ever run Quicken under :)
-- 

Seeya,
Paul
----
    Doing something stupid always costs less (up front) than doing
                        something intelligent.
  A conclusion is simply the place where you got tired of thinking.
         If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right!



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