On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, Derek Martin wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Bryan Williams wrote:
>
> > Why would you (the general "you") ship a "commercial" product with alpha
> > code for a major component? Seems like someone in RH-land should be
> > slapped for that one.
>
> Because it's time to release a new distro, in order to keep that revenue
> coming in the door, so that you can stay a viable company. What's that?
> Not much significant has changed since the last one?
Interesting....I always thought glibc was a significant part of the
distribution....seeing as almost every program makes use of it....
It's very easy to say things like that....and while I don't agree with
some of RedHat's moves (mainly shipping gcc 2.96) I feel I must defend
them on this one. Shipping X4.0.1 was a good move...sure it's going to
cause a little pain for some people, and I'm sorry, but guess what, if we
keep taking this attitude that the code is 'alpha' and we shouldn't ship
it, then it never gets the wide audience of testing that it needs to get
out of an 'alpha' state. (Yes, the same argument could be made for gcc
2.96, but I feel they should have have 1.1.2 be gcc, and install 2.96
as something else, like egcc for experimental gcc...).
RH (and the beta testers of which I am one) spent quite a bit of time
determining which servers (4.0 or 3.3.6) worked best for which cards and
went from there. Is it perfect? No, but you also need to take into account
that newer graphics cards don't have drivers in 3.3.6 (Voodoo 5 anyone??).
So, IMHO they made the right move with Xwindows in 7.0.
There's also something else to keep in mind....RH has more than one arch
to worry about and 4.0 runs much better on non-x86 machines than the 3.3.6
servers did, with much better hardware support.
So, remember this is open source software! If you don't like what RedHat
did, don't use them, there are a million other dists out there (all with
something else wrong I'm sure), or even replace X4.0 with 3.3.6 if that's
what you prefer.
> Hmmm... better
> provide something new so that people will think they're getting their
> money's worth if they update to the new distro. Wait, I got it... let's
> throw in some alpha code so that we have some new stuff...
Derek, I think you posted a while ago your experiences with RH7.0, well
FWIW I've have no problems with it what so ever. I've had it on my
Thinkpad T20 since before it was released to the public and other than the
compiler issue it's been great. FWIW this was an update from 6.2, not a
clean install. Would I recomend this to somebody as a new user, to install
on a production server, no, I'd say stick with 6.2 or at least wait until
7.1. Nobody gets a .0 release right...why do you think MS stopped using
the .0 terminology... (Windows95,99,ME,2000)...after all, those aren't .0
releases :)
--rdp
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Rich Payne
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