Today, Tony Lambiris gleaned this insight:

> Benjamin Scott wrote:
> 
> >   Given that past Debian installs have failed to even create a valid base
> > installation, I would say, yes, they have improved!  They are now at the same
> > level as, say, Red Hat Linux 3.x.  (In fact, the installers of RHL 3.x and
> > Debian 2.2 are remarkably similar.)  However, I sincerely hope Debian's latest
> > attempt to revamp their installer succeeds.  They are at serious risk of
> > playing catch-up forever.
> 
> I can't understand why people hate Debian's installer so much. It's very
> straight-forward, and as long as you know a little about your system (at least the
> module you use for your ethernet device), Debian will install no problem. What do
> you mean they have to play catch up? Their installer works, so what do they need
> to catch up?

Their installer SUCKS!  It's ugly, non-intuitive, and slow (I don't mean
the performance, I mean it takes too damn long).  It doesn't figure out
what hardware you have for you, and the help is often anything but. I
can't make it any plainer than that.  

I can do a RH install in 3 minutes.  My first Debian install took 3
hours.  Not counting post-install configuration in either case.  And no,
debian wasn't all configured when I was done the install.  I had to make
numerous customizations, similar to those I made on redhat, before I was
happy with it.

I'll grant you I don't NEED an installer that figures out everything for
me; I've been through numerous Slackware installs (in the days of 3.x).
But if I have the choice between hard and easy, I'll take easy.

-- 
Derek Martin
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