Benjamin Scott said:
>On Wed, 23 May 2001, Jeffry Smith wrote:
>> Yep.  The instant someone (CIO level, preferably, but definitely in the
>> managment chaing) gets fired for NOT implementing the kind of security
>> that's possible is when you will see things change.
>
>  Except it isn't the managers that get fired.  The admins tell the PHBs they
>need time to work on security (or backups, or fault tolerance, or...).  
The
>PHBs say no, work on something else.  They get hacked.  The admins are 
fired
>for not doing their job.  The new admins tell the PHBs they need time to 
work
>on security.  The PHBs say no...

That's why I said what I said.  The culture has to change to hold the 
managers accountable for not providing resources to the admins.  When THAT 
happens is when we'll see changes.  How to make that happen?  By clearly 
documenting the costs / benefits / risks, and making certain the PHB's 
bosses know the problem could have been prevented (technical), but did not 
get the resources (management), and that management KNEW that it could 
have been prevented.

Of course, it also means work on changing management perception without 
directly saying they're PHB's.  People don't take criticism well, and get 
defensive.

No easy solution, alas.

jeff

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Jeffry Smith      Technical Sales Consultant     Mission Critical Linux
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Thought for today:  time sink n. 

 [poss. by analogy with `heat sink' or
   `current sink'] A project that consumes unbounded amounts of
   time.



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