This has been an interesting thread.  Quite frankly I've never understood just
what the heck .NET is but I assumed it was because I'm not a programmer.  Thanks
for this helpful thread.

As a former OS/2 bigot/evangelist (no comments please :-) ) I'm very familiar
with competing with M$.  Despite not really understanding Mono, I really like
it.  The fact is, from a conceptual level, the customer asks "well what
about..." and we can say "Yeah, we've got that".  Hey, nothing says .NET will
succeed or ever be much more than vapor particularly now that M$ is so focused
on security :-), but we've a response and therefore .NET is not an exclusive,
thus giving us a leg up.  I pitch to very large companies fairly often and this
is very helpful, not Mono per se but certainly what we can and can't do and Mono
is part of that.

A second point, against Mono and Wine.  It's very difficult to win when you're
always chasing or lagging.  That is if you are adhering exactly to Microsoft
then they control things.  New somethings, like XP, will come out which will
fundamentally break some things and then there is a lag while we catch up.  That
said, I'm hoping Mono will set it's own "open" standards, as mentioned in this
post, and deny M$ the "embrace and extend" capability.  That said, Wine is
great, but not as a platform for the future, more as a compatibility layer to
plug the gap between what's available on Windows and that on Linux.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > Correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm no programmer, but I was under the
> > impression that the whole .NET thing was not Microsoft's invention anyway,
> > but simply a re-implementation of Sun's Java/Beans model that Microsoft
> > undertook when they realized what a stupid waste of time COM was...
>
> Um, .net == ActiveX == DCOM == COM == OLE2 == OLE == DDE ad nauseum.
>
> It's a cool trick - rename the technology, tweak a few core classes
> and charge another $2500 for this year's model of the developer's kit.
>
> It does the same thing as beans, the same way that it basically does
> the same thing as CORBA.  But since it was not developed as a
> consensus standard, there will be no place but Microsoft to turn to if
> Ximian Mono fails.  If Mono succeeds and takes on a substantial
> *Windows* user base, the Microsoft developer tools money machine my
> find it difficult to yank the chain every 9 months.
>
> Microsoft has never been on the CORBA bus.  Sun was on it and made
> moves to get off when the introduced Java RMI, the original Java
> distributed object technology but they were rapidly beaten into
> submission by a handful of the members of the 800+ strong OMG.
>
> ccb
>
> *****************************************************************
> To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body.
> *****************************************************************


*****************************************************************
To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body.
*****************************************************************

Reply via email to