Hey: no need to "concede." I honestly think Miguel *does* bear watching -- he strikes me as a bit of a loose cannon. But the real point I was trying to make (and one that Ben first mentioned, and you further point out) is that one should listen to what Miguel has to say for himself -- and The Register probably is *not* the place to hear that. ;-) I'm not sure what their agenda is (if, indeed, they are even organized enough to have one), but I do know that *THEY* are knee-jerk to the extreme, and have no issue, whatsoever, with painting things with any brush they so feel like. There's an on-line "magazine" in the fiber-optic community, "Light Reading" (www.lightreading.com) that, while not quite as bad, is fairly similar. I guess it's a sign of the Internet's maturity as a medium that we've now got honest-to-goodness tabloid journalism in the vertical markets.
-Ken On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 18:30, Paul Iadonisi wrote: > Okay, I concede...I've been caught with my biases down...up, uh, whatever. > I should also mention that I did meet Miguel before GNOME or KDE ever existed, > and I'ld have to agree that he is a bright guy. I'm not looking for him to > start publicly bashing M$, Larry Elison and Scott MacNealy do enough of that > to keep any M$ hater happy. > I guess I'll just have to show up at some conference he speaks at to get > a better first hand hearing of what he has to say. It's just that this isn't > the first time that he's said things publicly that have made me mildly > supicious. The switch of the Mono class library license is just one more > thing that's tweaked my suspicions lately. Not that I dislike that MIT/X > license vehemently, it's just that I originally chose GNOME over KDE due > to the licensing issues. Now it appears the situation is kind of reversed > (not quite, though, since the MIT/X license isn't nearly as bad as the QPL > was for QT). > > On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 04:45:08PM -0500, Ken D'Ambrosio wrote: > > > > Here's the link: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23919.html > > > > > > You need to be more careful of how you read. At no point does Miguel say > > > that. Those are The Register's words. > > > > I have to agree 100% with Ben, here: The Register, bless their little > > Linux-loving souls, are a bit on the "Tabloid Linux" side. I enjoy > > them... but I can't say that I respect their journalistic integrity. > > > > > Reading *just* the quotes attributed to Miguel, he basically comes off as > > > being impressed with the technology of .NET, but mentioned the Microsoft > > > issue very little. He also appears to be interested in what has been > > > submitted to ECMA as open standards, and not interested in the proprietary > > > Windows stuff. > > > > > > Given that, and that alone, I would be cautiously optimistic. > > > > Again, Ben's on the money. I've followed Miguel/Gnome since very > > shortly after Gnome's inception, and have found that: > > 1) Miguel respects *some* of what MS does, from an architecture > > standpoint. For example, he's in favor of modular design, something he > > says he really saw in action when he visited their site. You'll note, > > however, that not only did he turn down employment there, but went in > > pretty much the exact opposite direction. > > 2) Miguel isn't always reasonable -- eg., his stance against KDE. > > (Roughly summed up as "We rule, they don't.") Nevertheless, he's an > > amazingly intelligent guy, who can really do some pretty darn cool > > things. Being put in the context of a Register story, though, could > > make anyone appear to be most anything. > > > > $.02 > > > > -Ken > > -- > -Paul Iadonisi > Senior System Administrator > Red Hat Certified Engineer / Local Linux Lobbyist > Ever see a penguin fly? -- Try Linux. > GPL all the way: Sell services, don't lease secrets > ***************************************************************** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *****************************************************************
