Well from my point of view that is confusing. Nobody in my world refers to a "General Journal" we refer to the "General Ledger" and we do journals :-) I've never actually heard the term general journal used anywhere before until this discussion over the weekend !!!
Cheers Dave H. On 24 February 2018 at 19:58, Geert Janssens <[email protected]> wrote: > Op zaterdag 24 februari 2018 00:46:07 CET schreef David Carlson: > > This thread seems like deja vu to me. I thought this was discussed > before > > and the result was that GnuCash changed the name of one or the other in > > release 2.6.18 or thereabouts. > > > > Am I dreaming? > > > > David C > > > > You're not dreaming. This has been discussed before and there was even a > bugreport for it: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122895 > > I have personally applied all the required changes to use "General Journal" > consistently in GnuCash. This fix was applied in February 2015. However as > this affected many translatable strings, I decided back then to fix this > only > on master (to become 3.0 soon). So gnucash 2.6 will still use the term > "General Ledger". > > And looking further I have found I then mixed things up in October 2015: > after > some discussion I have started changing the term in the stable > documentation > as well (2.6.x). So we're now in the unfortunate situation the application > still uses the term General Ledger and the associated documentation uses > the > term General Journal. > > I have reverted these unintended corrections on the 2.6 documentation so > the > last 2.6.x release will still consistently use the old "General Ledger" > term > and 3.0 will consistently switch to "General Journal". > > Sorry for the confusion this created. > > Regards, > > Geert > > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:52 PM, Buddha Buck <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I suspect that GnuCash terminology regarding journals and ledgers is > > > somewhat confused and non-standard. > > > > > > My basic understanding of classical accounting is that transactions > were > > > first entered into journals, and then posted into ledgers, one per > > > account. > > > The collection of ledger books was the "general ledger", while the > nominal > > > time-ordered collection of journal entries was the "general journal" > (or > > > the "general journal" was the journal in which transactions which > didn't > > > belong in the sales journal, purchase journal, etc were recorded). > > > > > > In GnuCash terms, a classical account ledger would correspond to a > GnuCash > > > account register. And the classic general journal would correspond to > > > GnuCash's general ledger. The classic general ledger might even be a > > > GnuCash book as a whole. I don't know what GnuCash is calling a general > > > journal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 1:43 PM Adrien Monteleone < > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > Stan, > > > > > > > > No I knew you were referring to the Ledger and I think David did also > > > > though he linked to the help on the Journal. > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, it seems the Help file needs a tweak. (or the > software) > > > > > > The > > > > > > > link he gives describes in fact, the General Ledger. The terminology > on > > > > > > the > > > > > > > title and within the help article are inconsistent with the naming in > > > > the > > > > software. (though Journal is probably the more historically correct > > > > term, > > > > the two might be interchangeable) > > > > > > > > In the software, the General Journal is a report you can run that > shows > > > > ALL transactions. (under the Assets & Liabilities sub-menu) You can’t > > > > > > enter > > > > > > > anything into it. There is no date selector in the options, and the > > > > > > Filter > > > > > > > By… in View is not available. > > > > > > > > Since I don’t close books I see everything when I look at either. > > > > Perhaps > > > > someone who uses that procedure might see only the current accounting > > > > period - I’m not sure. > > > > > > > > To add to the confusion, there is also a General Ledger report > located > > > > in > > > > that same menu. However, it seems to be the same as the Transaction > > > > > > Report > > > > > > > and is much more versatile than the General Journal report. > > > > > > > > For the record, I don’t see any separate ‘tool’ or ‘register’ called > > > > General Journal at least not in my copy of 2.6.19. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Adrien > > > > > > > > > On Feb 23, 2018, at 9:42 AM, Stan Brown < > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Thanks, Adrien. > > > > > > > > > > Please note that I asked about the general ledger, not the general > > > > > > > > journal, but I see that the filter works the same way (now that I > know > > > > to > > > > try it). > > > > > > > > > As the documentation mentions only the general journal, maybe "and > > > > > > > > general ledger" should be added, for the benefit of folks who are > > > > > > searching > > > > > > > for it? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Stan Brown > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > http://BrownMath.com > > > > > http://OakRoadSystems.com/ > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018, at 7:52 AM, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > > > > >> And unfortunately, this filter change is not sticky. You’ll have > to > > > > >> reset it each time you load the GL. This is already a filed bug. > > > > >> > > > > >>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 5:47 AM, David T. via gnucash-user < > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>> "The General Journal defaults to showing only the previous month > of > > > > > > > > transactions. This is changeable by using the "Filter By..." on the > View > > > > menu." > > > > > > > > >>>> On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:27 PM, Stan Brown < > [email protected] > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >>>> There doesn't seem to be any documentation of Tools » General > > > > > > Ledger, > > > > > > > >>>> neither in the Help Manual nor in the Concepts Tutorial. (I > > > > >>>> couldn't > > > > >>>> find an answer in the FAQ or Using GnuCash either.) > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> I have transactions entered from 2017-12-31 though 2018-01-31. > But > > > > > > for > > > > > > > >>>> some reason, the General Ledger shows only 2018-01-23 through > > > > >>>> 2018-01-31. ... > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Please note: I'm talking about the General Ledger _tool_, not > the > > > > >>>> report. I want the ability to correct transactions that I get in > > > > >>>> the > > > > > > > > tool. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > gnucash-user mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > > > ----- > > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > gnucash-user mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > > ----- > > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > [email protected] > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. ----- > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnucash-user mailing list > [email protected] > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > ----- > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list [email protected] To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. 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