Thank you, Albertina. Your mother was a great person (so is her brother, who we call Konkani Moraes in these parts, for his sheer love of the mother-tongue). People like them, of rock-solid scruples, are fast vanishing. Regards your Point 2 below, though laudable, I am personally sceptical it will fetch results in the present setup. Yet, I would support any such attempt. But since I don't move out of my house compound, I regret I can do no more. Best, v
On Tue, 2 May, 2023, 2:37 pm Albertina Almeida, < [email protected]> wrote: > Yes Valmiki, that was my mother. Thank you for the compliments. My mother > worked there until her retirement in 1989/1990. She took great pride in > assisting anyone who either needed to access some document for their > personal use or who wanted to do some research. Whenever we come across > such people, we must appreciate them, and stand by them when they are > victimised for being spokes in the wheel of corruption. My mother was one > such person who was such a spoke in the wheel. She is no more, but how > proud I am of her. > > On another note, there should be an organised movement to get the Archives > Department to be responsive and efficient. And all of the issues may not > rest with the Director. There are so many controls from different quarters > there. But maybe there should be a representation made to get things going > at the Secretary level, and this should be followed up by some persons here > who are willing to take responsibility. Anyone willing? > > Sincerely, > Albertina > > On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 9:57 AM Valmiki Faleiro <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, when the sister of Antonio da Piedade Moraes (I think your mother?) >> worked there. >> She was a quiet, simple, knowledgeable, competent -- and, above all -- a >> very positive and helpful person. >> That tribe of Goans is now hard to find. >> After everything, I hope Selma gets the information she needs. >> Best, v >> >> On Mon, 1 May, 2023, 10:13 pm Albertina Almeida, < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Is there anyone here who accessed the Goa Archives about 35 years or >>> more ago? Where it was accessible even without technology? I somehow think >>> that it is not just about technology, though technology certainly can help. >>> It is also about a regimen of corruption, which can persist even with >>> technology. >>> >>> For instance, at the Registrar's office, the process towards >>> registration of sale deeds has been digitised. One would have thought that >>> would make it easier. But approvals of what is uploaded can take sooooo >>> long for some. And the connectivity and other issues including the website >>> being dysfunctional, so to say, can make life hell. The whole exercise can >>> be a nightmare. >>> >>> So while technology can help, it may not be the panacea. There is >>> something more. >>> >>> Albertina >>> >>> On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 9:55 PM sandra lobo <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> He/She is precious, or just a piece of a shameful state of affairs, >>>> particularly at Goa archives? Of course Selma being a women does not help >>>> the situation. For instance, if one does not hold Indian citizenship then >>>> has to pay seven times the price of copying documents, as if researchers >>>> swim in money. The present head of the Archives, Dipak M. Bandekar, >>>> should be confronted with being runing a historical archive in a modern >>>> world. My experience is that sometimes conversation works miracles >>>> (not always). I hope there are still good examples in Goa, as that of >>>> Central Library when under Carlos Fernandes direction. Without his positive >>>> attitude I would have never been able to perform the ample investigation of >>>> my PhD. Good luck, Selma >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sandra Ataíde Lobo >>>> >>>> >>>> https://giepcip.wordpress.com/ >>>> >>>> tmn. ++351 930690459 >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *De:* [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> em nome de John de Figueiredo < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> *Enviado:* 1 de maio de 2023 16:43 >>>> *Para:* [email protected] < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> *Assunto:* Re: [GRN] Update about Goa Archives >>>> >>>> Dear Selma, >>>> Please get the name and contact information of the person who helped >>>> you. He/she is precious. >>>> Best wishes, >>>> John >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On May 1, 2023, at 2:25 AM, 'Carvalho' via Goa-Research-Net < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> Thank you for the numerous helpful response regarding Goa Archives. I >>>> did indeed visit the Goa Archives. I arrived at 10am and sat patiently for >>>> an hour. Eventually someone recognised me as the writer and hastened my >>>> entry into the archive hall. This office defied any semblance of modernity >>>> and had an estranged relationship with technology. By some antediluvian >>>> method, I ordered a documented assisted by person who recognised me. I then >>>> took a seat and awaited said document. I sat in a hall full of men who >>>> pored over centuries-old documents with their arms spread on these books, >>>> brandishing felt pens, the documents spine straddled without support. After >>>> I saw this, I felt nausea creeping up and tried to avoid eye contact with >>>> anyone, most of all the clerks in the room. >>>> >>>> I sat for another one hour and could see all the peons chatting but no >>>> document had arrived. I went to the head clerk and asked about the possible >>>> arrival of my book. He nodded to a peon, they laughed, and one frail >>>> creature departed on his search with all the enthusiasm of a man being led >>>> to the guillotine. Finally he returned clutching the holy grail of a book >>>> but when I took custody, it was the wrong book. I went to tell the manager >>>> who sat in a class cabin with the surly look of a government officer, >>>> pressing a buzzer to summon people. He dismissed by not looking up. I did >>>> not wait for the right document because had it arrived, I could neither >>>> photograph it nor photocopy it. I would have to make an application for the >>>> record and collect it 15 days later. So I left. >>>> >>>> Every department, institution and organisation of governance in Goa >>>> (and unfortunately I have had to visit many) is a failure of efficiency, >>>> procedure, custody and care. We are light years away from any semblance of >>>> modernity and our sense of Goan exceptionalism is utterly misplaced. >>>> >>>> The story does have a happy ending. 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