Re: [GRN] Indian cinema and Vasco de Gama

'Pedro Mascarenhas' via Goa-Research-Net Sun, 21 Jul 2024 13:23:04 -0700

 
The names youmention represent a minority compared to the many anonymous mixed 
race ordescendants who were xenophobes, such as what happened in the Goa’s 
Liceu.

Did youpersonally inquire with people in the villages to understand the
situation «in loco»?

Please read :

A memória pública da presençaportuguesa em Goa no folclore em Concani de
Teotónio R. de Souza de10/may/2018. (search on google).

«…….The reasons that led mestizos tomanifest racist tendencies in Goa and the
Northern Province were not verydifferent. As part of Pombal's administrative
reforms, the army wasabolished, which gave “descendants” a privileged position
of power anddomination. The viceroy had to issue an edict in Goa with the
followingcontent: «the pride that dominates this part of the world, is the
originalcause of the dejection of these miserable naturals... I also call the
Portuguese the mestizos because inthem even more than in the same Europeans
that Luciferian vice reigns more”.The edict prohibited white people from
calling natives “blacks” and “dogs”[6].At this juncture of colonial issues, the
Konkani proverb must have appeared: Sorop mhonncho nhoi dakhlo,firngi mhonncho
nhoi aplo (= Don't say that the snake is small nor that thePortuguese is our
friend). It was to say that both should be treated asequally dangerous…..»

Nãoeram muito diferentes os motivos que levavam os mestiços a
manifestartendências racistas em Goa e na Província do Norte. Como parte
dasreformas administrativas de Pombal foi abolido o exército que dava
aos«descendentes» uma posição privilegiada de poder e dominação. O vice-rei
teveque emitir em Goa um édito do seguinte teor: «a soberba que domina nesta
partedo mundo, é a causa originária do abatimento destes miseráveis naturais…
chamotambém Portugueses aos mestiços porque nestes ainda mais que nos
mesmosEuropeus reina mais aquele luciferino vício». O edital proibia aos
brancosdesignar os naturais por «negros» e «cachorros»[6]. Nessaconjuntura da
problemática colonial deve ter surgido o provérbio Konkani: Soropmhonncho nhoi
dakhlo, firngi mhonncho nhoi aplo (= Não se diga que acobra é pequena nem que o
português é nosso amigo). Era para dizer que ambosdeviam ser tratados como
igualmente perigosos.

On Saturday, July 13, 2024 at 07:59:23 AM GMT+1, JOHN DE FIGUEIREDO
<[email protected]> wrote:

Worth remembering:the following "Descendentes" who most certainly were not
"xenophobic"::Tomás de Aquino Mourão Garcez Palha: expert in Konkani, Marathi,
and Sanskrit, who encouraged Varde Valaulicar to devote himself to the
uplifiting of Konkani because in his opinion Konkani, not Marathi, was the
mother tongue of all GoansCristóvão Aires, a wonderful poet, who described
India as his "berço meu amado" (:my beloved cradle)Ferreira Martins, a
distinguished historian, who translated to Portuguese Kalidasa's poem
Shankuntala and Tagore's poems Gitanjali and ChitraFernando Leal, another
wonderful poet, who wrote poetry based on themes of Hindu epics and praised the
distinguished Goan poet Floriano BarretoThe countless "Descendentes" who were
slaughtered during the Gaspar Dias Fortress incident "in the flower of their
age" (to quote Miguel Vicente de Abreu) by the insurrectionists who deposed
Bernardo Peres da Silva; those "Descendentes" were there to defend the fortress
and they were ready to die for Peres da Silva and his Liberal Cause.(and yet we
have distinguished Goan historians like Teotónio de Sousa and Leopoldo da Rocha
calling that insurrection a "mestiço revolt" and shoving that incident and
other brave "Descendentes" who were loyal to Peres da Silva under the
rug)Calling them "xenophobic" would be offending their memories and falsifying
history to satisfy our political appetites..Compare them to Bishop Mateus de
Castro (sometimes called "Mahale", a name he does not appear to have ever used)
who believed that only Brahmans should be Bishops and who was a racist and a
castist by his own admission.John M. de Figueiredo

On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 02:37:38 PM EDT, 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via
Goa-Research-Net <[email protected]> wrote:

"...xenophobic mestiços or descendentes..." I love generalizations... Nuno
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2024 at 12:01 PM
From: "'Pedro Mascarenhas' via Goa-Research-Net"
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Subject: Re: [GRN] Indian cinema and Vasco de Gama John URUMI, was a huge
success and was seen by millions who got an idea of the history of the past.
I have now learned that the film was shown in the United Arab Emirates, Egypt,
Qatar, Kuwait, Canada, UK and others.The names Rivara, etc. that you mentioned
are a drop in the ocean. You should have mentioned the thousands of racists,
exploiters, slavers, entire villages massacred, criminal exiles sent to the
colonies, the bloodthirsty political police (PIDE/DGS), the xenophobic mestiços
or descendentes, etc.“Colonization itself” is an aberration. For this reason,
all colonized peoples fought relentlessly and the statues of false heroes were
torn down. We must not forget that the Portuguese people also suffered a lot.
On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 07:09:34 AM GMT+1, John de Figueiredo
<[email protected]> wrote: “The colonizer … presents the colonized as
savage and ignorant”.Assuming that “colonizer” refers to Europeans or their
descendants: what would make Afonso de Albuquerque say that Goan carpenters
were better than those from Germany? And Garcia d’Orta refer to Hindu
physicians as “great scholars”? And Tomas Ribeiro praise the Goan talent for
literature? And Cunha Rivara and Garces Palha encourage Goans to study their
language? And Osorio Castro establish a Museum of Hindu Art and Archaeology in
Velha Goa (Old Goa)? And Ferreira Martins translate Tagore’s poetry? And
Cristóvão Aires find inspiration in Indian epics?With all due respect, in the
case of Goa at least, such generalizations are not helpful.John M. de
Figueiredo Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 28, 2024, at 11:57 PM, 'Pedro Mascarenhas' via Goa-Research-Net
<[email protected]> wrote:

Urumi : The Warriors Who Wanted to Kill Vasco Da Gama, is a 2011 Indian
Malayalam Language epic historical drama film.

Urumi is a double-edged, long and narrow flexible sword-like weapon that is
fixed to the combatant´s waist like belt.

The film is set in the early 16th century, when the Portuguese dominated the
Indian Ocean. The story follows Murikkancheri Kelu , seeking to avenge the
death of his father at the hands of the portuguese colonizers.

The plot also incorporates such historical figures as Estêvão da Gama and Vasco
da Gama.

This film marks the debut of Genelia D'Souza in Malayalam Cinema.

Award, Imagineindia Internacional Film Festival Madrid : best film e best
director.

As in many indian films, there are hyperbolic scenes, but the objective was to
instill in Indian viewers a vision of what the colonial empire was, beyond what
appears in school textbooks. It was viewed by millions of speakers of Hindi,
Tamil, Telugu and Malayalam languages.

The story cannot always be Eurocentric, but must contain the point of view of
the colonized. The colonizer boasts of heroic deeds on a grand scale and
presents the colonized as savage and ignorant. This film demonstrated to
millions of Indian viewers what the invader was made of.

In this long video Vasco appears in the 16th minutes and one can hear words
spoken in Portuguese.

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