I had these issues cleared for a long time, but Urumi is a film with its perspective, which is good to watch and appreciate. For the rest, I am going through your writing on monti saibinn fest and pre-harvest festival in Canara. I will send it over with my corrections soon. W R Da Silva
On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 6:13 AM Sonia Gomes <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you very much Roland, John as well as Dr. Figueiredo, I had no > knowledge of all these facts and now I have gleaned tremendously from this > thread. Thank you very much. My best wishes and take care. Sonia > > On Sat, 13 Jul, 2024, 12:29 pm JOHN DE FIGUEIREDO, < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Worth remembering:the following "Descendentes" who most certainly were >> not "xenophobic":: >> Tomás de Aquino Mourão Garcez Palha: expert in Konkani, Marathi, and >> Sanskrit, who encouraged Varde Valaulicar to devote himself to the >> uplifiting of Konkani because in his opinion Konkani, not Marathi, was the >> mother tongue of all Goans >> Cristóvão Aires, a wonderful poet, who described India as his "berço meu >> amado" (:my beloved cradle) >> Ferreira Martins, a distinguished historian, who translated to Portuguese >> Kalidasa's poem Shankuntala and Tagore's poems Gitanjali and Chitra >> Fernando Leal, another wonderful poet, who wrote poetry based on themes >> of Hindu epics and praised the distinguished Goan poet Floriano Barreto >> The countless "Descendentes" who were slaughtered during the Gaspar Dias >> Fortress incident "in the flower of their age" (to quote Miguel Vicente de >> Abreu) by the insurrectionists who deposed Bernardo Peres da Silva; those >> "Descendentes" were there to defend the fortress and they were ready to die >> for Peres da Silva and his Liberal Cause.(and yet we have distinguished >> Goan historians like Teotónio de Sousa and Leopoldo da Rocha calling >> that insurrection a "mestiço revolt" and shoving that incident and other >> brave "Descendentes" who were loyal to Peres da Silva under the rug) >> Calling them "xenophobic" would be offending their memories and >> falsifying history to satisfy our political appetites.. >> Compare them to Bishop Mateus de Castro (sometimes called "Mahale", a >> name he does not appear to have ever used) who believed that only Brahmans >> should be Bishops and who was a racist and a castist by his own admission. >> John M. de Figueiredo >> >> >> On Monday, July 1, 2024 at 02:37:38 PM EDT, 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via >> Goa-Research-Net <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> "...xenophobic mestiços or descendentes..." >> >> I love generalizations... >> >> Nuno >> >> *Sent:* Monday, July 01, 2024 at 12:01 PM >> *From:* "'Pedro Mascarenhas' via Goa-Research-Net" < >> [email protected]> >> *To:* "[email protected]" < >> [email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [GRN] Indian cinema and Vasco de Gama >> >> John >> >> URUMI, was a huge success and was seen by millions who got an idea of >> the history of the past. I have now learned that the film was shown in >> the United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Qatar, Kuwait, Canada, UK and others. >> The names Rivara, etc. that you mentioned are a drop in the ocean. You >> should have mentioned the thousands of racists, exploiters, slavers, entire >> villages massacred, criminal exiles sent to the colonies, the bloodthirsty >> political police (PIDE/DGS), the xenophobic mestiços or descendentes, >> etc. >> “Colonization itself” is an aberration. >> For this reason, all colonized peoples fought relentlessly and the >> statues of false heroes were torn down. We must not forget that the >> Portuguese people also suffered a lot. >> >> >> >> On Sunday, June 30, 2024 at 07:09:34 AM GMT+1, John de Figueiredo < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> “The colonizer … presents the colonized as savage and ignorant”. >> Assuming that “colonizer” refers to Europeans or their descendants: what >> would make Afonso de Albuquerque say that Goan carpenters were better than >> those from Germany? And Garcia d’Orta refer to Hindu physicians as “great >> scholars”? And Tomas Ribeiro praise the Goan talent for literature? And >> Cunha Rivara and Garces Palha encourage Goans to study their language? And >> Osorio Castro establish a Museum of Hindu Art and Archaeology in Velha Goa >> (Old Goa)? And Ferreira Martins translate Tagore’s poetry? And Cristóvão >> Aires find inspiration in Indian epics? >> With all due respect, in the case of Goa at least, such generalizations >> are not helpful. >> John M. de Figueiredo >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Jun 28, 2024, at 11:57 PM, 'Pedro Mascarenhas' via Goa-Research-Net < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Urumi : The Warriors Who Wanted to Kill Vasco Da Gama, is a 2011 Indian >> Malayalam Language epic historical drama film. >> >> Urumi is a double-edged, long and narrow flexible sword-like weapon that >> is fixed to the combatant´s waist like belt. >> >> The film is set in the early 16th century, when the Portuguese dominated >> the Indian Ocean. The story follows Murikkancheri Kelu , seeking to avenge >> the death of his father at the hands of the portuguese colonizers. >> >> The plot also incorporates such historical figures as Estêvão da Gama and >> Vasco da Gama. >> >> This film marks the debut of Genelia D'Souza in Malayalam Cinema. >> >> Award, Imagineindia Internacional Film Festival Madrid : best film e best >> director. >> >> As in many indian films, there are hyperbolic scenes, but the objective >> was to instill in Indian viewers a vision of what the colonial empire was, >> beyond what appears in school textbooks. It was viewed by millions of >> speakers of Hindi, Tamil, Telugu and Malayalam languages. >> >> The story cannot always be Eurocentric, but must contain the point of >> view of the colonized. The colonizer boasts of heroic deeds on a grand >> scale and presents the colonized as savage and ignorant. This film >> demonstrated to millions of Indian viewers what the invader was made of. >> >> >> In this long video Vasco appears in the 16th minutes and one can hear >> words spoken in Portuguese. >> >> >> >> Urumi Tamil Full Movie | Prithviraj | Prabhu Deva | Santosh Sivan | Arya >> | Genelia | Vidya Balan <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omg3-ZuohM8> >> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omg3-ZuohM8> Urumi Tamil Full Movie | >> Prithviraj | Prabhu Deva | Santosh Sivan | Arya... >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omg3-ZuohM8> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Goa-Research-Net" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/1268861778.8417750.1719313148539%40mail.yahoo.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/1268861778.8417750.1719313148539%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Goa-Research-Net" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/54C8FECC-310C-46B3-B7CE-70B930C87AF1%40sbcglobal.net >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/54C8FECC-310C-46B3-B7CE-70B930C87AF1%40sbcglobal.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Goa-Research-Net" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/739598221.515410.1719831682947%40mail.yahoo.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/739598221.515410.1719831682947%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Goa-Research-Net" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/trinity-241c7901-e453-416e-b5d3-110f869a194b-1719844244212%403c-app-mailcom-bs11 >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/trinity-241c7901-e453-416e-b5d3-110f869a194b-1719844244212%403c-app-mailcom-bs11?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Goa-Research-Net" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/370345894.113302.1720845904387%40mail.yahoo.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/370345894.113302.1720845904387%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Goa-Research-Net" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAG_LhYN9bXxqJGxEJy-QojVoCxsVQZ3J%2BwZfSbkNpFfEBaCR6w%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAG_LhYN9bXxqJGxEJy-QojVoCxsVQZ3J%2BwZfSbkNpFfEBaCR6w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. 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