Re: [GRN] Re: Dutch map ‘stolen from the Portuguese’

[John de Figueiredo]

Pedro, I would be grateful if you would share with us your sources of information about what you write on the Portuguese in Chorão: “the Portuguese colonizers were self-proclaimed aristocrats etc.” John Sent from my iPhone On Oct 7, 2024, at 6:21 AM, 'Nuno Cardoso da Silva' via Goa-Research-Net <goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> wrote:  Pedro,   My experience in Angola was that often White men had intercourse with Black women and made them pregnant. In most cases I know of, the children (mixed race) were taken care of in their father's house, they were sent to school and taken care of as any of the legitimate children. The mothers were left on their own, though. If Portuguese men did that in Africa, I doubt they would have acted differently in Goa. But you are welcome to your prejudices...   Nuno     Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2024 at 3:14 PM From: "'Pedro Mascarenhas' via Goa-Research-Net" <goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> To: "goa-research-net@googlegroups.com" <goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [GRN] Re: Dutch map ‘stolen from the Portuguese’   John( ..........In fact, the Island of Chorão, where many of them lived, was known as “Ilha dos Fidalgos” (Island of Nobility........). On the island of Chorão, the Portuguese colonizers had Goan and African slaves. They were self-proclaimed aristocrats who left Portugal where poverty was rampant. True aristocrats would never leave their land to go to Goa and lose their lives and possessions knowing that the Mughals and Marathas would attack whenever they could.   Nuno(............The Portuguese difference was the willingness of mixing with other ethnic groups, from the casual sexual intercourse to marriage and to the ability to "go native"...........)   The English did not mix in India because they were from the upper middle and upper class. Most of the Portuguese were from the lower class and illiterate. They raped many women and abandoned them and their mixed race children.   Here is a report that clearly explains what happened in a certain colony, where even many Goans were settled: https://acervo.publico.pt/mundo/noticia/quantos-milhoes-morreram-na-saga-do-colonialismo-1724884           -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to goa-research-net+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/1173903945.13467151.1728137663385%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to goa-research-net+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/trinity-0a727b4f-4861-40c2-b14b-3beddb6011c1-1728243506771%403c-app-mailcom-bs09. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to goa-research-net+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/E728AC5D-D77F-4825-A18C-40C542F48F1A%40sbcglobal.net.