They did not “imitate the savages” in everything, Albert. They abolished the “sati” (“suttee”). JM de F Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 11, 2024, at 2:37 PM, V M <[email protected]> wrote: > > Here is what the great Francisco Luis Gomes said about slavery in the > Portuguese parliament in 1861, with an admirable moral clarity that > some Goans seem to have lost over the generations: > > "I have already stated in the House, and I repeat it today that I am > an enemy to slavery. I am so on principle, and because of historic > traditions of my country, whose ancient civilization, although it > admitted of lower castes, never permitted slavery; its code is free > from this stain." > > He declared himself in favour of "prompt and immediate emancipation" > but "resigned" to the fact it wasn't going to happen. > >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 6:16 PM <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> what grounds have the Goans to criticize the Portuguese for having slaves? >> >> The key issue is that the Portuguese colonizers proclaimed themselves to be >> CIVILIZED and the others were savages. Do you understand that? If they were >> civilized, why the hell did they imitate the savages? >> >> >> >> ----- Mensagem de John de Figueiredo <[email protected]> --------- >> Data: Thu, 10 Oct 2024 23:36:26 -0400 >> De: John de Figueiredo <[email protected]> >> Assunto: Re: [GRN] Re: Dutch map ‘stolen from the Portuguese’ >> Para: [email protected] >> >> The medieval Dharmashastras allowed the sale of oneself or one’s dependents, >> especially during famines. A case could be made that the Hindu caste system >> reduced some people to things. In the 16th century in Goa and elsewhere it >> was believed that in some cases, slavery was justified, the so-called “just >> slavery”. Until 1569 every religious order in Goa had slaves. My question is >> this: if the Goans, Christians and Hindus, had slaves, what grounds have the >> Goans to criticize the Portuguese for having slaves? The Portuguese did not >> introduce slavery in Goa and they were doing what everybody else was doing. >> Even Pombal could not abolish slavery in Brazil. >> >> What is regrettable is that centuries went by before slavery was viewed as >> it had been all along, an abomination, and the evil of human trafficking >> continues to this date in various parts of the world. >> John M. de Figueiredo >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Goa-Research-Net" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/20241011121026.Horde.jeT69z5xr4kkaCrZYdcG3kM%40mail.sapo.pt. > > > > -- > #2, Second Floor, Navelkar Trade Centre, Panjim, Goa > Cellphone 9326140754 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Goa-Research-Net" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAN1wPW7J2pNh-ut1BO-v%2B0jHoCysusf8nLOHAbnF7VV9Sk4sJA%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CF3AFE38-49A6-4D25-AB27-75675629EF83%40sbcglobal.net.
