And they did their best to abolish the caste system that condemned an entire segment of the population to perpetual servitude. Francisco Luis Gomes was misinformed when he stated that his country’s “ancient civilization never permitted slavery” (though this fact may not have been known in his time). JM de F Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 11, 2024, at 2:37 PM, V M <[email protected]> wrote: > > Here is what the great Francisco Luis Gomes said about slavery in the > Portuguese parliament in 1861, with an admirable moral clarity that > some Goans seem to have lost over the generations: > > "I have already stated in the House, and I repeat it today that I am > an enemy to slavery. I am so on principle, and because of historic > traditions of my country, whose ancient civilization, although it > admitted of lower castes, never permitted slavery; its code is free > from this stain." > > He declared himself in favour of "prompt and immediate emancipation" > but "resigned" to the fact it wasn't going to happen. > >> On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 6:16 PM <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> what grounds have the Goans to criticize the Portuguese for having slaves? >> >> The key issue is that the Portuguese colonizers proclaimed themselves to be >> CIVILIZED and the others were savages. Do you understand that? If they were >> civilized, why the hell did they imitate the savages? >> >> >> >> ----- Mensagem de John de Figueiredo <[email protected]> --------- >> Data: Thu, 10 Oct 2024 23:36:26 -0400 >> De: John de Figueiredo <[email protected]> >> Assunto: Re: [GRN] Re: Dutch map ‘stolen from the Portuguese’ >> Para: [email protected] >> >> The medieval Dharmashastras allowed the sale of oneself or one’s dependents, >> especially during famines. A case could be made that the Hindu caste system >> reduced some people to things. In the 16th century in Goa and elsewhere it >> was believed that in some cases, slavery was justified, the so-called “just >> slavery”. Until 1569 every religious order in Goa had slaves. My question is >> this: if the Goans, Christians and Hindus, had slaves, what grounds have the >> Goans to criticize the Portuguese for having slaves? The Portuguese did not >> introduce slavery in Goa and they were doing what everybody else was doing. >> Even Pombal could not abolish slavery in Brazil. >> >> What is regrettable is that centuries went by before slavery was viewed as >> it had been all along, an abomination, and the evil of human trafficking >> continues to this date in various parts of the world. >> John M. de Figueiredo >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Goa-Research-Net" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/20241011121026.Horde.jeT69z5xr4kkaCrZYdcG3kM%40mail.sapo.pt. > > > > -- > #2, Second Floor, Navelkar Trade Centre, Panjim, Goa > Cellphone 9326140754 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Goa-Research-Net" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAN1wPW7J2pNh-ut1BO-v%2B0jHoCysusf8nLOHAbnF7VV9Sk4sJA%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/94231112-793F-4E69-BCEB-532C32A4F655%40sbcglobal.net.
