There are some journals charging a submission fee outside the "mainstream" EU/USA journal environment. I have heard them mentioned in several countries, but only have evidence of journals in Kenya and Nigeria (and the model that one I met used is that the submission fee is refunded if the article is published).
One justification for charging this is that they also pay peer reviewers (not something I think is really sustainable in other environments). Pippa ***** Pippa Smart Research Communication and Publishing Consultant PSP Consulting 3 Park Lane, Appleton, Oxon OX13 5JT, UK Tel: +44 7775 627688 or +44 1865 864255 email: [email protected] Web: www.pspconsulting.org **** Editor of the ALPSP-Alert, Reviews editor of Learned Publishing **** On 12 October 2012 16:42, Jan Velterop <[email protected]> wrote: > It's entirely logical; I agree with Sally. > > What you're also likely to find is that OA articles in hybrid journals are > just a small fraction of the number of OA articles in fully OA journals. > Probably a consequence of a functional market already working. > > It does indicate, though, a flaw in the way article processing charges for OA > are levied on published articles only. Thus perpetuating the deep flaw in the > subscription model, namely that all the costs are loaded onto the published > articles only, whereas rejecting involves arguably a similar amount of work > per paper. A submission fee (analogous to, say, an exam fee) would be much > fairer. They don't exist (that is to say, not as a means to cover all costs > of a journal). Nobody has the guts to start charging only submission fees. > > There are of course also problems with submission fees. If you have to pay > and still run the risk of rejection, you would want to be very sure that the > peer-review has been carried out professionally and well, and you would > expect accountability. Many journals would risk failure on the accountability > front, I suspect. > > But the benefits reach beyond fairness. Submissions would be far less > speculative and pitched at the right level far more often than is the case > now. Preventing the cascading down effect, with all the waste of reviewers' > time that comes with multiple rounds of rejection and submission elsewhere, > must be an attractive consequence. Not to mention the reformatting of > manuscript necessary for many a new submission (because to a different > journal) of a previously rejected article. > > Who dares? eLife perhaps, by the time it starts charging? Wouldn't be the > first time the Wellcome Trust with their colleagues at HHMI and MPG turned > out game changers. > > Jan Velterop > > > On 12 Oct 2012, at 15:32, Sally Morris wrote: > >> I find it self-evident, rather than worrying >> >> On the value side of the pricing equation, publishing in a high IF journal >> is clearly of more value to an author than publishing in a lo or no IF >> journal. >> >> On the cost side, I'd guess that high IF journals tend to reject a higher % >> of articles than low or no IF journals. Accepted articles have to bear a >> share of the costs of processing these articles up to the point of >> rejection. >> >> Sally >> >> >> Sally Morris >> South House, The Street, Clapham, Worthing, West Sussex, UK BN13 3UU >> Tel: +44 (0)1903 871286 >> Email: [email protected] >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of ANDREW Theo >> Sent: 12 October 2012 15:12 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [GOAL] Gold OA: Publication costs and journal impact factors >> >> Dear All, >> >> I'd like to draw your attention to a piece of work we have carried out which >> looks at Gold OA fees and journal impact factors: >> >> http://libraryblogs.is.ed.ac.uk/openscholarship/2012/10/02/impact-cost/ >> >> In short, it appears that 1) hybrid journals generally charge more than full >> OA journals independent of journal impact factor, and 2) hybrid journals >> with high impact factors charge significantly more than other types of >> journal for gold open access. >> >> I find this apparent correlation between journal impact factor and cost >> worrying and would welcome feedback. Is this something that other people are >> seeing or have we got our facts wrong? >> >> Kind regards, Theo >> __________________________ >> Theo Andrew >> Research Publications Service >> Edinburgh University Library >> >> tel. 0131 651 3850 >> web. http://bit.ly/UoE-RPS >> post. 4 Buccleuch Place, >> Edinburgh, EH8 9LW. >> skype. theoandrew >> >> >> -- >> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, >> with registration number SC005336. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> GOAL mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal >> >> _______________________________________________ >> GOAL mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal _______________________________________________ GOAL mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal
