Thank you for providing the information, Marcin. Since there is a subset of the open access community that demands blanket permissions for commercial rights downstream (a position I strongly disagree with), it is important to discuss what the potential commercial uses might be to determine whether these actually advance open access or scholarly knowledge or not.
Some comments on these options for Paperity: In the subscriptions model, aggregators (such as EBSCO and ProQuest), typically pay journals to include their content, or in the case of open access journals, at least do not charge the journals. Charging journals to include them in an aggregated service changes a revenue stream to an expense stream for the journals. This makes it harder to find the revenue to produce journals; a barrier to publishing journals in the first place is not in the interests of advancing scholarly knowledge. Advertising is one of the potential revenue streams for open access journals (and one that some journals are currently using). If Paperity is using journal content to sell advertising, then Paperity could easily be competing with the journals for this revenue. It is lovely to hear of Paperity's good intentions starting out to be fair, efficient and acceptable for everyone. But what can happen with services like this down the road when there are bills to be paid, journals are less than keen to pay for this service and advertisers continue to prefer Google? The following is addressed to my fellow open access advocates as this is a good discussion about open access downstream, and these comments are not intended to apply to Paperity: If the purpose of insisting on re-use and commercial rights downstream is designed to facilitate the design of services such as Paperity, let's discuss these possibilities downstream that I argue are facilitated by CC-BY and/or CC-BY-SA licenses: - aggregator takes CC-BY content and develops a toll-access value-added service By way of illustration of this: Elsevier's Scopus claims to include 2,800 gold open access journals. Scopus is a subscription-based service. - aggregator takes CC-BY content, initially develops an open access value-added search service, then sells the service to a for-profit company that changes the business model to toll access By way of illustration of the sales aspect, consider that Elsevier bought Mendeley and Springer bought BioMedCentral. Both are still free services, but offered by largely subscription-based companies; why would we assume that they would never change the business model? - aggregator follows the Paperity suggestion of charging journals, but with a twist: does not include journals that do not pay and/or returns results based on payments by journals (i.e. pay-to-play) Are these models seen as desirable by advocates of requiring CC-BY and/or CC-BY-SA licenses? Are any of these scenarios aligned with the Budapest vision? If you agree that they are not, can you explain why you think these are unlikely or how the licenses would prevent this from happening? For example, perhaps someone can explain how it is that Elsevier is able to charge to direct people to OA journals through Scopus? A comment on SA: although Sharealike is the most copyleft of the CC license elements, it does not come with an obligation to share in the same way, rather an obligation to use the same license when including re-used content. One can take a work that is licensed SA and is freely available on the web and include it in a work that is limited in any of a variety of fashions (part of a presentation to an audience limited to those who are willing and able to pay to attend; a toll access work, etc.) - as long the work downstream uses the license. In other words, CC-BY-SA does not do as much to protect OA downstream as one might think. best, Heather Morrison On 2014-10-12, at 3:20 PM, Marcin Wojnarski wrote: > Hi Serge, > > We're working on this. Paperity started as a non-profit academic project, but > yes, we need to develop a business model to make it sustainable and to > achieve the goal of 100% OA aggregated. Most likely we'll expect > participating journals to support our services, which we think is a fair > solution when many of them charge APCs and we actually help them do their job > (dissemination). We're aware however that there are also many small > non-profit journals which don't charge APC at all, and we definitely want to > aggregate them all, too. So the details are still to be sorted out, but I'm > confident that over time we'll come up with a good solution: one that's fair, > efficient and acceptable for everybody. Of course, there are also more > traditional solutions that we'll investigate, like adverts. > > Cheers > Marcin > > > On 10/11/2014 09:07 PM, BAUIN Serge wrote: >> Marcin, >> >> May I ask "what is the economic model of Paperity?" >> I didn't find any information about that on your web site. >> >> Cheers >> >> Serge >> >> Envoyé d'un téléphone portable, désolé pour le caractère inélégant... >> >> Le 10 oct. 2014 à 08:22, "Marcin Wojnarski" <[email protected]> a écrit : >> >>> Jeroen, >>> >>> Thanks, it's great to hear that you like Paperity! >>> >>> "True peer-reviewed" means published in a peer-reviewed journal, in >>> contrast to a pdf just posted somewhere on the web (think Google Scholar), >>> which can be anything: a peer-reviewed paper or not, published or not, even >>> randomly generated to resemble a scholarly article, for example to pump up >>> G Scholar citations (http://arxiv.org/abs/1212.0638). >>> >>> The new technology is called REgular Document EXpressions (redex). It is a >>> computer language for analyzing long and complex documents, particularly >>> written in a markup, like HTML or XML. It facilitates analysis of web >>> context where the paper occured, which is critical for maintaining the link >>> between the paper and its journal. Redex builds on top of the very >>> fundamental technology of regular expressions (regex), but redefines the >>> language entirely to make it suitable for large structured texts. >>> >>> Best, >>> Marcin >>> >>> On 10/09/2014 05:02 PM, Bosman, J.M. (Jeroen) wrote: >>>> Marcin, >>>> >>>> This is a great initiative. I had been hoping BASEsearch would take on >>>> this task, but it is good to see others are stepping in. >>>> >>>> Congrats on the initiative. Still, a long way to go >>>> >>>> Could you elaborate on how your technology is able to recognize “true peer >>>> reviewed papers” and what you consider to be “ true peer reviewed papers”? >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Jeroen Bosman >>>> @jeroenbosman >>>> Utrecht University Library >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>>> Of Marcin Wojnarski >>>> Sent: donderdag 9 oktober 2014 14:51 >>>> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) >>>> Subject: [GOAL] Paperity launched. The 1st multidisciplinary aggregator of >>>> OA journals & papers >>>> >>>> (press release, apologies for cross-posting) >>>> >>>> With the beginning of the new academic year, Paperity, the first >>>> multidisciplinary aggregator of Open Access journals and papers, has been >>>> launched. Paperity will connect authors with readers, boost dissemination >>>> of new discoveries and consolidate academia around open literature. >>>> >>>> Right now, Paperity (http://paperity.org/) includes over 160,000 open >>>> articles, "gold" and "hybrid", from 2,000 scholarly journals, and growing. >>>> The goal of the team is to cover - with the support of journal editors and >>>> publishers - 100% of Open Access literature in 3 years from now. In order >>>> to achieve this, Paperity utilizes an original technology for article >>>> indexing, designed by Marcin Wojnarski, a data geek from Poland and a >>>> medalist of the International Mathematical Olympiad. This technology >>>> indexes only true peer-reviewed scholarly papers and filters out >>>> irrelevant entries, which easily make it into other aggregators and search >>>> engines. >>>> >>>> The amount of scholarly literature has grown enormously in the last >>>> decades. Successful dissemination became a big issue. New tools are needed >>>> to help readers access vast amounts of literature dispersed all over the >>>> web and to help authors reach their target audience. Moreover, research is >>>> interdisciplinary now and scholars need broad access to literature from >>>> many fields, also from outside of their core research area. This is the >>>> reason why Paperity covers all subjects, from Sciences, >>>> Technology, Medicine, through Social Sciences, to Humanities and Arts. >>>> >>>> - There are lots of great articles out there which report new significant >>>> findings, yet attract no attention, only because they are hard to find. No >>>> more than top 10% of research institutions have good access to >>>> communication channels and can share their findings efficiently. The >>>> remaining 90%, especially authors from developing countries and >>>> early-career researchers, start from a much lower stand and often stay >>>> unnoticed despite high quality of their work – says Wojnarski. He adds >>>> that it is not by accident that Paperity partners right now with the EU >>>> Contest for Young Scientists, the biggest science fair in >>>> Europe. With the help of Paperity, the Contest wants to improve >>>> dissemination of discoveries authored by its participants – top young >>>> talents from all over the continent. >>>> >>>> Paperity is the first service of this kind. The most similar existing >>>> website, PubMed Central, aggregates open journals, too, but is limited to >>>> life sciences alone. Another related service, the Directory of Open Access >>>> Journals, does index articles from multiple periodicals and different >>>> disciplines, but does not provide aggregation, only pure indexing: it >>>> shows metadata of articles, but for fulltext access redirects to external >>>> sites. Moreover, both PMC and DOAJ impose strict technical requirements on >>>> participating journals, which limits the scope of aggregation. Paperity >>>> adapts to whatever technology a given periodical employs. >>>> >>>> Paperity website: http://paperity.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Marcin Wojnarski, Founder of Paperity, www.paperity.org >>>> www.linkedin.com/in/marcinwojnarski >>>> www.facebook.com/Paperity >>>> www.twitter.com/Paperity >>>> >>>> Paperity. Open science aggregated. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> GOAL mailing list >>>> >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> GOAL mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> GOAL mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > > > -- > Marcin Wojnarski, Founder of Paperity, > www.paperity.org > www.linkedin.com/in/marcinwojnarski > www.facebook.com/Paperity > www.twitter.com/Paperity > > > Paperity. Open science aggregated. > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal _______________________________________________ GOAL mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal
