Heather,
Thank you for this deep analysis. I don't feel like an expert on 
licensing issues so I will let others comment, but every new idea on how 
in general to fund academic services like Paperity is more than welcome. 
The individual who finally discovers a satisfactory solution should get 
a Nobel Prize at the very least.

Best
Marcin


On 10/12/2014 10:22 PM, Heather Morrison wrote:
> Thank you for providing the information, Marcin. Since there is a subset of 
> the open access community that demands blanket permissions for commercial 
> rights downstream (a position I strongly disagree with), it is important to 
> discuss what the potential commercial uses might be to determine whether 
> these actually advance open access or scholarly knowledge or not.
>
> Some comments on these options for Paperity:
>
> In the subscriptions model, aggregators (such as EBSCO and ProQuest), 
> typically pay journals to include their content, or in the case of open 
> access journals, at least do not charge the journals. Charging journals to 
> include them in an aggregated service changes a revenue stream to an expense 
> stream for the journals. This makes it harder to find the revenue to produce 
> journals; a barrier to publishing journals in the first place is not in the 
> interests of advancing scholarly knowledge.
>
> Advertising is one of the potential revenue streams for open access journals 
> (and one that some journals are currently using). If Paperity is using 
> journal content to sell advertising, then Paperity could easily be competing 
> with the journals for this revenue.
>
> It is lovely to hear of Paperity's good intentions starting out to be fair, 
> efficient and acceptable for everyone. But what can happen with services like 
> this down the road when there are bills to be paid, journals are less than 
> keen to pay for this service and advertisers continue to prefer Google?
>
> The following is addressed to my fellow open access advocates as this is a 
> good discussion about open access downstream, and these comments are not 
> intended to apply to Paperity:
>
> If the purpose of insisting on re-use and commercial rights downstream is 
> designed to facilitate the design of services such as Paperity, let's discuss 
> these possibilities downstream that I argue are facilitated by CC-BY and/or 
> CC-BY-SA licenses:
>
> -     aggregator takes CC-BY content and develops a toll-access value-added 
> service
>
> By way of illustration of this: Elsevier's Scopus claims to include 2,800 
> gold open access journals. Scopus is a subscription-based service.
>
> -     aggregator takes CC-BY content, initially develops an open access 
> value-added search service, then sells the service to a for-profit company 
> that changes the business model to toll access
>
> By way of illustration of the sales aspect, consider that Elsevier bought 
> Mendeley and Springer bought BioMedCentral. Both are still free services, but 
> offered by largely subscription-based companies; why would we assume that 
> they would never change the business model?
>
> -     aggregator follows the Paperity suggestion of charging journals, but 
> with a twist: does not include journals that do not pay and/or returns 
> results based on payments by journals (i.e. pay-to-play)
>
> Are these models seen as desirable by advocates of requiring CC-BY and/or 
> CC-BY-SA licenses? Are any of these scenarios aligned with the Budapest 
> vision? If you agree that they are not, can you explain why you think these 
> are unlikely or how the licenses would prevent this from happening? For 
> example, perhaps someone can explain how it is that Elsevier is able to 
> charge to direct people to OA journals through Scopus?
>
> A comment on SA: although Sharealike is the most copyleft of the CC license 
> elements, it does not come with an obligation to share in the same way, 
> rather an obligation to use the same license when including re-used content. 
> One can take a work that is licensed SA and is freely available on the web 
> and include it in a work that is limited in any of a variety of fashions 
> (part of a presentation to an audience limited to those who are willing and 
> able to pay to attend; a toll access work, etc.) - as long the work 
> downstream uses the license. In other words, CC-BY-SA does not do as much to 
> protect OA downstream as one might think.
>
> best,
>
> Heather Morrison
>
>
> On 2014-10-12, at 3:20 PM, Marcin Wojnarski wrote:
>
>> Hi Serge,
>>
>> We're working on this. Paperity started as a non-profit academic project, 
>> but yes, we need to develop a business model to make it sustainable and to 
>> achieve the goal of 100% OA aggregated. Most likely we'll expect 
>> participating journals to support our services, which we think is a fair 
>> solution when many of them charge APCs and we actually help them do their 
>> job (dissemination). We're aware however that there are also many small 
>> non-profit journals which don't charge APC at all, and we definitely want to 
>> aggregate them all, too. So the details are still to be sorted out, but I'm 
>> confident that over time we'll come up with a good solution: one that's 
>> fair, efficient and acceptable for everybody. Of course, there are also more 
>> traditional solutions that we'll investigate, like adverts.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Marcin
>>
>>
>> On 10/11/2014 09:07 PM, BAUIN Serge wrote:
>>> Marcin,
>>>
>>> May I ask "what is the economic model of Paperity?"
>>> I didn't find any information about that on your web site.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Serge
>>>
>>> Envoyé d'un téléphone portable, désolé pour le caractère inélégant...
>>>
>>> Le 10 oct. 2014 à 08:22, "Marcin Wojnarski" <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Jeroen,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, it's great to hear that you like Paperity!
>>>>
>>>> "True peer-reviewed" means published in a peer-reviewed journal, in 
>>>> contrast to a pdf just posted somewhere on the web (think Google Scholar), 
>>>> which can be anything: a peer-reviewed paper or not, published or not, 
>>>> even randomly generated to resemble a scholarly article, for example to 
>>>> pump up G Scholar citations (http://arxiv.org/abs/1212.0638).
>>>>
>>>> The new technology is called REgular Document EXpressions (redex). It is a 
>>>> computer language for analyzing long and complex documents, particularly 
>>>> written in a markup, like HTML or XML. It facilitates analysis of web 
>>>> context where the paper occured, which is critical for maintaining the 
>>>> link between the paper and its journal. Redex builds on top of the very 
>>>> fundamental technology of regular expressions (regex), but redefines the 
>>>> language entirely to make it suitable for large structured texts.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Marcin
>>>>
>>>> On 10/09/2014 05:02 PM, Bosman, J.M. (Jeroen) wrote:
>>>>> Marcin,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a great initiative. I had been hoping BASEsearch would take on 
>>>>> this task, but it is good to see others are stepping in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Congrats on the initiative. Still, a long way to go
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you elaborate on how your technology is able to recognize “true 
>>>>> peer reviewed papers” and what you consider to be “ true peer reviewed 
>>>>> papers”?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Jeroen Bosman
>>>>> @jeroenbosman
>>>>> Utrecht University Library
>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Marcin Wojnarski
>>>>> Sent: donderdag 9 oktober 2014 14:51
>>>>> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
>>>>> Subject: [GOAL] Paperity launched. The 1st multidisciplinary aggregator 
>>>>> of OA journals & papers
>>>>>
>>>>> (press release, apologies for cross-posting)
>>>>>
>>>>> With the beginning of the new academic year, Paperity, the first 
>>>>> multidisciplinary aggregator of Open Access journals and papers, has been 
>>>>> launched. Paperity will connect authors with readers, boost dissemination 
>>>>> of new discoveries and consolidate academia around open literature.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now, Paperity (http://paperity.org/) includes over 160,000 open 
>>>>> articles, "gold" and "hybrid", from 2,000 scholarly journals, and 
>>>>> growing. The goal of the team is to cover - with the support of journal 
>>>>> editors and publishers - 100% of Open Access literature in 3 years from 
>>>>> now. In order to achieve this, Paperity utilizes an original technology 
>>>>> for article indexing, designed by Marcin Wojnarski, a data geek from 
>>>>> Poland and a medalist of the International Mathematical Olympiad. This 
>>>>> technology indexes only true peer-reviewed scholarly papers and filters 
>>>>> out irrelevant entries, which easily make it into other aggregators and 
>>>>> search engines.
>>>>>
>>>>> The amount of scholarly literature has grown enormously in the last 
>>>>> decades. Successful dissemination became a big issue. New tools are 
>>>>> needed to help readers access vast amounts of literature dispersed all 
>>>>> over the web and to help authors reach their target audience. Moreover, 
>>>>> research is interdisciplinary now and scholars need broad access to 
>>>>> literature from many fields, also from outside of their core research 
>>>>> area. This is the reason why                 Paperity covers all 
>>>>> subjects, from Sciences, Technology, Medicine, through Social Sciences, 
>>>>> to Humanities and Arts.
>>>>>
>>>>> - There are lots of great articles out there which report new significant 
>>>>> findings, yet attract no attention, only because they are hard to find. 
>>>>> No more than top 10% of research institutions have good access to 
>>>>> communication channels and can share their findings efficiently. The 
>>>>> remaining 90%, especially authors from developing countries and 
>>>>> early-career researchers, start from a much lower stand and often stay 
>>>>> unnoticed despite high quality of their work – says Wojnarski. He adds 
>>>>> that it is not by accident that Paperity partners right now with the EU 
>>>>> Contest for Young Scientists, the                 biggest science fair in 
>>>>> Europe. With the help of Paperity, the Contest wants to improve 
>>>>> dissemination of discoveries authored by its participants – top young 
>>>>> talents from all over the continent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paperity is the first service of this kind. The most similar existing 
>>>>> website, PubMed Central, aggregates open journals, too, but is limited to 
>>>>> life sciences alone. Another related service, the Directory of Open 
>>>>> Access Journals, does index articles from multiple periodicals and 
>>>>> different disciplines, but does not provide aggregation, only pure 
>>>>> indexing: it shows metadata of articles, but for fulltext access 
>>>>> redirects to external sites. Moreover, both PMC and DOAJ impose strict 
>>>>> technical requirements on participating journals, which limits the scope 
>>>>> of aggregation. Paperity adapts to whatever technology a given periodical 
>>>>> employs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paperity website: http://paperity.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Marcin Wojnarski, Founder of Paperity, www.paperity.org
>>>>> www.linkedin.com/in/marcinwojnarski
>>>>> www.facebook.com/Paperity
>>>>> www.twitter.com/Paperity
>>>>>
>>>>> Paperity. Open science aggregated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> www.paperity.org
>> www.linkedin.com/in/marcinwojnarski
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