Before we get trapped into the technical details, I think we must welcome the spirit of Jeroen's wisth list and of Heather's challenge. Thank you so much.
CC-BY does have that kind of potential problem. The free software community saw that coming and invented copyleft. CC-BY-SA sort that out, I think. On 8 April 2015 at 09:06, Peter Murray-Rust <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:04 PM, David Prosser <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > Jeroen - CC-BY license >> > >> > Heather - NO!!! the CC-BY license is a major strategic error of the >> open access movement. Allowing downstream commercial use to anyone opens up >> the possibility of re-enclosure. ... >> >> I continue to be unable to grasp Heather’s argument. If, for whatever >> reason, I purchase from you a CC-BY article I can, as it is CC-BY, make the >> article freely available. I don’t see how CC-BY allows for re-enclosure >> when it contains within itself the ultimate enclosure-busting feature of >> allowing unlimited distribution provided there is attribution. >> >> David >> >> > I completely agree with David. If HeatherM can show us that total > enclosure has ever actually occurred we need to know. The conditions are > almost inconceivable: > * a commercial company encloses the *published* CC-BY article. It strips > off the licence (thereby breaking the contract). > * the world destroys or loses ALL other copies of the manuscript. It then > forgets that this manuscript ever existed as CC-BY. > > Only then does the illegally enclosed object represent monopoly control. > > In the normal case there are always copies of the un-enclosed article > available for free use, re-use, modification and redistribution > > P. > > [Far more serious is the following scenario which happens frequently > enough to be really serious. A traditional toll-access publisher accepts > payment from an author/funder for CC-BY licensing. It then publishes the > manuscript without CC-BY and under a more (often completely) restrictive > licence. Only the author/funder knows that the m/s should be CC-BY. Unless > they publish this information (as Wellcome Trust and some libraries did > last year) the m/s will remain closed and will continue to be resold. And > early copies , before the discovery, will probably still circulate with > "All rights reserved". ] > > > -- > Peter Murray-Rust > Reader in Molecular Informatics > Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry > University of Cambridge > CB2 1EW, UK > +44-1223-763069 > > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal > > -- Jacinto Dávila http://webdelprofesor.ula.ve/ingenieria/jacinto
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