I would rather have a survey with generics specific question that would shed a better light to this topic. at least now, after following this discussion. i also think that it could be good to add it but is it worth when it also adds complexity? then i would say no thank you. go is powerful and simple but after that it would be powerful and complex. i think it would be better for go to solve the error handling. this would also make the go code better readable which would help the language more than adding generics if it is a good solution, i think ðŸ’
Sent from my iPhone > On 26. Dec 2020, at 03:32, redsto...@gmail.com <redstorm....@gmail.com> wrote: > > 25% of the survey takers answered the question means 75% of the survey > takers think there is no need to and any features in the language. This is a > common mistake of SURVIVOR BIAS. > >> On Wednesday, December 23, 2020 at 4:49:48 AM UTC+8 Ian Lance Taylor wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 1:24 AM Markus Heukelom >> <markus....@gain.pro> wrote: >> > >> > Why not issue a poll on generics, was this ever done? (I could've missed >> > it, I am only following Go ~2 years). While the community has a vote in >> > accepting/rejecting the current generics proposal, the community was never >> > (really) asked if generics is desired in the first place and especially >> > what the scope of generics should be. Is that correct? >> >> I don't know of a poll specifically about generics. But for the past >> several years we've done a Go community survey, and every year there >> is significant support for adding generics to the language. For >> example, although the results of the 2020 survey haven't been >> assembled yet, you can see the results of the 2019 survey at >> https://blog.golang.org/survey2019-results. In that survey when asked >> "Which critical language features do you need that are not available >> in Go?", 25% of the survey takers answered the question, and of those >> 79% mentioned generics. Previous years also showed support for adding >> generics. Of course this isn't definitive, since there was no clear >> way for people they say that do not want generics. But it's also not >> definitive in a different direction, which is that by and large people >> who don't currently use Go didn't take the survey, and probably some >> of them would also want generics. >> >> So while Go is not and never has been a poll-driven language, I think >> it's reasonable to say that there is real support for adding generics. >> >> >> > Another thought: there are many popular, type-safe programming language >> > with generics already. So if you really need generics, there's plenty to >> > pick from. There's not that many without, I can only name Go and C. So if >> > generics is added to Go there's far less choice to pick a modern type-safe >> > language that doesn't have generics. It's a feature that makes Go quite >> > special. >> >> Actually, C does have generics, through the preprocessor macro >> mechanism. It's difficult to write, but it does provide the same kind >> of functionality that would be available in Go if we added generics. >> For example, here is a compile-time-type-safe vector implementation in >> C: >> >> https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git;a=blob;f=gcc/vec.h;h=cb871124ce2241402af05e4697a5e28904c462fb;hb=HEAD >> >> https://gcc.gnu.org/git/?p=gcc.git;a=blob;f=gcc/vec.c;h=85274c4e00c202e680761cef516bd17bb58b6261;hb=HEAD >> >> >> Ian > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "golang-nuts" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to golang-nuts+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/golang-nuts/4402ee72-1720-4110-bebf-849b60863039n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "golang-nuts" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to golang-nuts+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/golang-nuts/BF592BDE-839E-42C2-9415-512D81D4535F%40gmail.com.
