Okay, regardless of your ability to offer me any sort of instant
support, I need this problem fixed.

I am not setting any read consistency. The query that you specified
(SELECT * FROM Search_update ORDER BY last_check DESC LIMIT 10) is set
to DESC, so of course it appears correct that the 2011 record is
first, but when you change it to ASC the 2011 record still appears
first.  The broken entity
'agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRi62AUM' now has changed to
2011 from what you did yesterday but is is showing up as the OLDEST
record.  if you look at the list you will see that after the broken
record, the following 9 records are in ascending order and set to
2010.  My original query above specified ascending order.


agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRi62AUM 2011-07-09
17:57:37.894714
agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRiUvi8M 2010-07-10
12:14:52.306180
agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRiawS4M 2010-07-10
12:15:18.649276
agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIWCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRjSkLEBDA 2010-07-10
12:15:40.274290
agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRiw_gUM 2010-07-10
12:15:43.913061
agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRjw1gUM 2010-07-10
12:15:52.877386
agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRif7FkM 2010-07-10
12:15:54.880721
agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRipqgUM 2010-07-10
12:15:56.204075
agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRiv4AUM 2010-07-10
12:15:59.092526
agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRijz20M 2010-07-10
12:16:00.490951

In general I like google app engine, but I am getting frustrated with
it's ability to consistently perform.  You have to realize that I have
an app that is coded correctly and was running fine until during the
planned downtime three days ago when this query stopped correctly
returning data, this is a structural flaw and completely disrupts my
ability to provide a service on your system. Also, this is the second
time this has happened and I had to go through quite a bit to fix it
the first time.  It seems that I have to repeat my last efforts, and
with no hope that it will not happen again and require me to generate
2 days more worth of posts to get you to fix the problem.

On Jul 9, 5:48 pm, Ikai Lan <[email protected]> wrote:
> I manually reverted it to 2010 because I didn't want to cause problems with
> your app by fudging with the data. It didn't revert automatically. I just
> ran this GQL query:
>
> SELECT * FROM Search_update ORDER BY last_check DESC LIMIT 10
>
> And it displayed the data correctly.
>
> Is there any chance you're setting a different read consistency?
>
> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/queriesandinde...
>
> I understand your frustration with regards to paid support - but our pricing
> structure doesn't bundle in a guarantee for a support response time. We make
> every effort to address any issues in production either behind the scenes,
> through proactive monitoring or to reactive reports via the different
> channels we keep track of, but we simply can't scale up a direct support
> option for developers who want to be able to pick up the red phone and get
> someone on the line immediately when there are service issues. In terms of
> addressing service degradation without additional cost to developers, based
> on conversations we have had with developers, I believe that we are as good
> if not much better than the industry standard for platform, managed cloud
> hosting. There are companies who will always have a resource for you
> available, but there's a reason any kind of baseline production spend will
> be in the hundreds of dollars - minimum. We're doing our best to minimize
> costs, support all developers on our platform, all while not charging
> developers who don't require a response time SLA.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Daniel <[email protected]> wrote:
> > When I run the query Search_update.all().order('last_check').fetch(10)
> > programtically I consistently get this response:
>
> > agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRi62AUM 2010-07-09
> > 17:57:37.894714
> > agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRjsm3kM 2010-07-08
> > 00:27:52.385926
> > agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRipkjsM 2010-07-08
> > 00:27:53.689982
> > agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIWCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRiqu7ABDA 2010-07-08
> > 00:27:54.616698
> > agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRiTrVwM 2010-07-08
> > 00:27:55.453521
> > agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRjksQUM 2010-07-08
> > 00:27:56.437609
> > agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIWCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRjp_KwBDA 2010-07-08
> > 00:28:02.699297
> > agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRiRqAUM 2010-07-08
> > 00:28:04.598150
> > agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIWCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRjyzK8BDA 2010-07-08
> > 00:28:05.595406
> > agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRi-2AUM 2010-07-08
> > 00:28:07.950788
>
> > Which places the record in question first in the query although it has
> > a date later than the listed records.  You can also see that having
> > just run the response that the 2011 date reverted.  It appears to
> > change when you save it, but it doesn't actually change.
>
> > On Jul 9, 5:14 pm, "Ikai L (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Using this GQL query in the admin console:
>
> > > SELECT * FROM Search_update where
> > > __key__=KEY('agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRi62AUM')
>
> > > I was able to set the year to 2011, see the changes reflected, then set
> > them
> > > back to 2010 (I didn't want to cause issues with your application). How
> > are
> > > you reproducing your issues? Can you see if you can update the timestamp
> > in
> > > the datastore viewer?
>
> > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Daniel <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > Thanks for the fast response.  The kind is Search_update.
>
> > > > On Jul 9, 3:16 pm, "Ikai L (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Daniel,
>
> > > > > What is the Entity Kind?
>
> > > > > The best thing I would recommend in the future is the billing support
> > > > form:
>
> >http://code.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=AppEngineB...
>
> > > > > This is a monitored queue for issues like these, and I expect that we
> > > > will
> > > > > be emphasizing it more. We're not currently equipped to handle
> > dedicated
> > > > > support, though it is on our roadmap to offer paid support with an
> > SLA
> > > > for
> > > > > response time.
>
> > > > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Daniel <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > I have a record which is frozen in the datastore and always shows
> > the
> > > > > > current time.  This record is blocking a major time sorted query in
> > my
> > > > > > application.  I've had this same problem in June (http://
> > > > > > groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/
> > > > > > b0021ac81b8c24a5/dcf6c71e3e0b3083) and I had to get a tech to fix
> > it.
> > > > > > Please help me correct this record.  The app is looxii-beta and the
> > > > > > key is agtsb294aWktYmV0YXIVCxINU2VhcmNoX3VwZGF0ZRi62AUM.
>
> > > > > > As an aside, it seems ridiculous to me that the database would not
> > > > > > perform as it should.  This is a major issue, and actually blocks
> > my
> > > > > > application from properly performing.  I accept that AppEngine is
> > in
> > > > > > beta, but at least give your paying customers a contact email
> > address
> > > > > > so that when we have legitimate issues we don't have to post to a
> > > > > > public forum and wait for a google rep to stumble upon our issue.
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