The Public Issue Tracker thread brought our attention has gotten tracked now, thanks to PK. We'll update it with any progress.
Now, as much as I'm sure we all appreciate Jeff's kind offer, I don't think it will be necessary to pay him $1000, since Cloud Platform Community Support are here to do a similar job at no cost. As said in other threads on this topic, if anybody at any time has issues migrating from any service to any other, has questions about design patterns, has questions about the use of our APIs or how to refactor their code, etc., this forum is the perfect place for such higher-level discussion and we would be happy to discuss in depth. We never want users to feel left alone, and asking a question once has the benefit that all other users in a similar situation can read and learn from the thread. This doesn't fit under the umbrella of "platform issues / feature requests" (Public Issue Tracker) or "a specific error / stack trace" (Stack Overflow), so it would be fine to post such threads in this forum. As an additional, final comment, I'll say that we do pay close attention to the requests for services / service improvements that users bring forward, whether here or in the Public Issue Tracker. We've taken the feedback from many users on the Mail API and bulk sending and while we don't promise any concrete action given this feedback, know that we have taken it into account and we want to thank you for bringing up how you view things, what you'd like to see, etc. Cheers, Nick Cloud Platform Community Support On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 10:42:26 PM UTC-4, Jeff Schnitzer wrote: > > Since this thread keeps coming up… I’ll make you all an offer: For $1k > I’ll migrate your GAE app to Sendgrid, Mailgun, or whatever other email > service you want. Assuming your code isn’t spaghetti, it will probably take > me an hour. It should take you about the same or less. > > This is sooo much kvetching about something that is so trivial to fix. > > Jeff > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 9:27 AM, PK <[email protected]> wrote: > >> +1 for Joshua’s comment. >> >> Nick, wrt "We always encourage users to make use of the Public Issue >> Tracker “ the issue is issue 10560 >> <https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=10560> stuck >> in state “New” for 2.5 years like 100s maybe thousands other issues in the >> public tracker. >> >> PK >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 18, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Joshua Smith <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Nick, >> >> I know you are stuck in the apologist position, and there’s nothing you >> can do about it, but come on… >> >> It is positively absurd that GAE doesn’t include any bulk email >> capability. If you guys are concerned about spammers abusing the service, >> just charge a penny per email sent or something. >> >> If it’s because google can’t figure out how to provide a reliable email >> service, maybe call the team over at gmail, I hear they have some >> experience in this area. >> >> You will never convince GAE users that having to use a third-party to >> send email is anything but a pathetic hack. >> >> -Joshua >> >> On Oct 18, 2016, at 10:55 AM, 'Nick (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google >> App Engine <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hey PK and Kaan, >> >> I hear your concerns. I hope that I can moderate worries by saying the >> following in regard to each of the points you brought up: >> >> *1. Avoid paying for attachment bits through front-end* >> >> While the GCS integration to Mail API attachments will be discussed in >> the next point, there's another GCS solution here which is very useful. You >> can generate URLs to the attachment objects and merely embed these URLs in >> the email. This ultimately has the same transfer cost for the user's >> machine as downloading from a mail server storing the attachment, but is >> slightly different since you can recall the object at a later date. >> >> *2. Feature requests for GCS integration to Mail API* >> >> We always encourage users to make use of the Public Issue Tracker >> <https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/list> to make any >> feature requests that they think of. We track them and consider them, and >> this is the best way to ensure that we know about it in a formal manner >> rather than just posting in a discussion thread. We look forward to all >> feature requests because it means users are working on the platform and >> >> >> *3. Platform Unity* >> We definitely recognize that the power of the platform comes from its >> unity and internal organization. The various services combine to create an >> ecosystem where development can rapidly integrate many capabilities to >> produce powerful apps. Because we understand that developers depend on the >> services for app performance, we offer a minimum 1 year announcement before >> deprecation, as you can read in the Cloud Platform Terms of Service >> <https://cloud.google.com/terms/>. >> >> We also do our best during any deprecation period to provide support and >> migration advice to developers. Community Support is a resource for you >> developers, so please don't hesitate to ask us any questions or open >> discussions of architecture, design, etc. We can't prevent the web or our >> services from changing over time, as all things must, but we can do our >> best to provide comprehensive support for users during these changes. >> >> For the moment, everything said above and elsewhere about the Mail API >> and Sendgrid remains good advice. Sendgrid is simply far better suited to >> bulk messages, while the Mail API can be used effectively for >> administrative emails such as a password reset system, etc. >> >> As always, let us know your thoughts or if you have any further >> questions! We'll be happy to help. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Nick >> Cloud Platform Community Support >> >> On Monday, October 17, 2016 at 6:39:17 PM UTC-4, Kaan Soral wrote: >>> >>> Good thing we are locked-in for life to App Engine. Using App Engine for >>> maybe 6 years, It's part of me >>> >>> Seeing this announcement, and practically experiencing the roadblock, >>> devastates me >>> >>> The beauty of App Engine comes from it's unity, when you take a vital >>> part of that unity out and kill it, it inflicts terror and fear, I fear >>> that more and more services are going to be terminated one day >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Google App Engine" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/08c9a88a-792e-45ee-89b9-426899c90900%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/08c9a88a-792e-45ee-89b9-426899c90900%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Google App Engine" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/20F83DA1-2445-4E7E-9359-C7E46DF4243A%40gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/20F83DA1-2445-4E7E-9359-C7E46DF4243A%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Google App Engine" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/CD897B33-74C5-446A-BD38-02B3D817B889%40gae123.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/CD897B33-74C5-446A-BD38-02B3D817B889%40gae123.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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