That is actually a good point indeed. We also have very old tech in production 
including some ALGOL.

I do have the impression that the JS Frameworks race has been slowing down a 
bit. Sure there will always be some new ideas, but the big frameworks are there 
for quite some.

At least with GWT/Java it is rather easy to maintain! GWT does not change much, 
sometimes that is an advantage.
On 20 Jan 2021, 16:48 +0100, [email protected] <[email protected]>, wrote:
> IMHO that's the problem with frameworks / languages. If they are "strong 
> enough" they won't be gone... I don't think that TypeScript / Vue.js / React 
> / Angular etc. will be vanished. They will stay forever just like COBOL and 
> other technologies like Borland / Embarcadero Delphi Object Pascal. My 
> comment above was a joke, because I don't know what will happen in 10 years. 
> There will be another hot things. Maybe we move completely on the native 
> client development instead of Web browser? But who knows...
>
> So at the end of the day the devs need to maintain apps with the zoo of 
> frameworks and languages.
>
> Scary if you see this history of web frameworks: 
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mraible/history-of-web-frameworks-timeline/master/history-of-web-frameworks-timeline.png
>
> I think, it's time that the development of apps / Web apps should go higher 
> in the abstraction level to be technology / framework independent. PIM 
> (Platform Independent Model) anyone?  😉
>
> BTW.: I still have JSPs in production. Also COBOL 😅
>
> Cheers,
> Lofi
> > [email protected] schrieb am Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2021 um 14:36:30 UTC+1:
> > > Why did you bet on GWT 10 years ago and wouldn't bet on TypeScript 
> > > nowadays?
> > > (fwiw, TypeScript is already 8 years old; Vue.js is 6 years old, React is 
> > > 7)
> > >
> > > > On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 5:26:38 PM UTC+1 [email protected] 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > @swas...
> > > > >
> > > > > <quote>
> > > > > Yes, almost 10 years for me too and production application  running 
> > > > > for 3 years.
> > > > > GWT 2.6.1 + Eclipse 4.8.  Tomcat8 + MySQL5.7  + Java8 + JasperReport
> > > > > my next 10 years plan is  move to TypeScript + VueJS.
> > > > > </quote>
> > > > >
> > > > > After 10 years, will we still be able to see TypeScript + VueJS? 😂
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Lofi
> > > > > > RobW schrieb am Dienstag, 19. Januar 2021 um 15:29:42 UTC+1:
> > > > > > > Our web front end is on 15 years with GWT as of this year, and 
> > > > > > > we're expecting 5 more with luck. So we'll hit the 20 year mark 
> > > > > > > if all goes well
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tuesday, 19 January 2021 at 10:46:44 UTC [email protected] 
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I wonder if that will actually last for the next 10 years.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, January 19, 2021 at 10:04:19 AM UTC+2 
> > > > > > > > > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, almost 10 years for me too and production 
> > > > > > > > > > > application  running for 3 years.
> > > > > > > > > > > GWT 2.6.1 + Eclipse 4.8.  Tomcat8 + MySQL5.7  + Java8 + 
> > > > > > > > > > > JasperReport
> > > > > > > > > > > my next 10 years plan is  move to TypeScript + VueJS.
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, 4 January 2021 at 23:37:53 UTC+7 Alexander 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Bertram wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice to hear from everyone!
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's to the next ten years :-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes for 2021,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, December 22, 2020 at 10:22:08 AM UTC+1 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Segun Razaq Sobulo wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been using GWT for 7+ years (with appengine 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > java backends) and actively looking for a job. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll push my resume.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, 21 December 2020 at 15:24:19 UTC+1 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are in times where working remotly id 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actually a good option.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 4:19:13 PM 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UTC+2 David Nouls wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Alex,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same story here. I have been working with 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GWT since it first came out. For our 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > current project we again opted for GWT 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because we share a lot of code between 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > client and server and productivity is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > high.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’m not available at the moment (maybe 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > end of next year)… but living in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Belgium/Leuven I don’t think that is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doable. Relocation is not an option. Good 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > luck finding people, there are not a lot 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the market.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Groeten,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 20 Dec 2020, 16:16 +0100, 'Alexander 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bertram' via GWT Users 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>, wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope this email isn't too off-topic, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but I wanted to share an opening for a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > job on our team with a large GWT 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > component.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://jobs.bedatadriven.com/software-engineer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The first version of our product, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActivityInfo, a data collection and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > analysis platform for humanitarian 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > relief, was built with GWT, GXT and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Google Gears in 2009 and seriously 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would not have been possible without 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > GWT.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In 2018, nearly 10 years later, we 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > looked at the amazing js ecosystem and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > considered moving to Typescript or Elm.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead, we decided to keep the bits 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that we loved about GWT: the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > typesafety, code-reuse with the server, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i18n, code splitting, linkers, and the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > amazing compiler, and add SCSS for 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > styles and our own port of Preact + 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rxJava-like reactivity for dom 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manipulation using Elemental2.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Three years after the start of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ActivityInfo 4.0 we couldn't be happier 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with the choice, and are more 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > productive than ever.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you're an experienced GWT developer 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that would enjoy the challenge of a 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > working on a modern GWT codebase, I 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hope you'll consider joining our team!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex
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