my confusion is raising?! (did someone read my "answer"? i kindly ask that 
someone may pay attention to it)
thomas i don't know if i understand the relation (i it exists) between MVP 
and places and activitie? "It'd be in most case a brad practice..." does 
this mean that is bad practice if places and activities don't have an 
relation to MVP in an given application? (and how does this relate to " 
Activities however are in no way related to MVP"?).
at the moment i see an activity as an 3rd place to put logic in: "part1" 
says put all logic in presenter, "part2" says at some (use) cases logic in 
view is ok(is this: gwt 
discussion<../d/topic/google-web-toolkit/3wqCUQpz2d4/discussion>such a use 
case?), jens and thomas say history/state logic could be sperated 
from presenter and put into activity ??
(besides how good is the the history handling of 
part1<http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/webtoolkit/articles/mvp-architecture.html#history>?
 is "at least" this part out of date and it is better to use places and 
activities?)

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