On a positive note, I talked about this exact problem with a person in hr at the Mozcamp in Warsaw last September.
I was a volunteer back then, so they were interested in getting my perspective on this very problem. Apparently, it is (or was, back then, at least) a high priority in hr to revert the trend of reaching for paid help whenever a problem isn't immediately solvable. I don't know anything about specific results, but I found that to be very encouraging. Also, fwiw, I was hired out of the community. On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Rubén Martín <[email protected]>wrote: > El 04/04/13 21:37, Irvin Chen escribió: > > > > I just feel that they just don't believe anything non-employee had done, > > we had maintain highly quality news blog (mostly the same resource as > > company's), > > a product website, a lot of subtitled videos, made a numbers of > > posters before, > > and they use really small thing we made on the "official event", and > > nothing on "official site". > > > > I can understand why this "official" insist came from, > > for those newly hired employees formally worked at other company, > > "volunteer" just mean un-trust for them, > > even they'd hired a formal community liaison, > > the manager still don't trust him on 'community can help' idea. > > > I completely understand you. > > * External contractors have done very low quality localizations having > in mind the professional quality most communities have been doing > for years. "We have budget" is not an excuse for externalising the > community. > * Being an employee does not give you trust, you have to earn it. > * I value more the opinions and work made by a long time mozillian > (volunteer or employee) than and recently hired person. We are a > meritocracy and the Corp. structure is completely different to the > rest of the organisation. > * New employees should ear this trust even if they are in a > decision-making position. If you don't value the rest of the > community, the community won't trust or value your work and decisions. > > And I think there are a lot of people that thinks this, but sometimes is > difficult to spend some time discussing when we all have a lot of work > to make. > > Regards. > > -- > Rubén Martín [Nukeador] > Mozilla Reps Mentor > http://www.mozilla-hispano.org > http://twitter.com/mozilla_hispano > http://facebook.com/mozillahispano > > > _______________________________________________ > governance mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance > > _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
