On 11/03/2014 21:57, Asa Dotzler wrote:
On 3/11/14, 8:49 AM, Majken Connor wrote:
I am not sure if this is true, but it seems that when things have been
moved "to community" there hasn't been a transition plan that has set
the
community group (vs org group) up for success. What I mean is that, it
seems like Mozilla has said "these are the resources we can spare"
rather
than saying "ok you need this amount of time to get these leadership
structures in place, and you'll need x amount of mentoring."
I don't think it's true. I think it's mostly perception.
I spent the better part of a year helping in various ways to
transition SeaMonkey to volunteer ownership in 2005 (after maintaining
it well into Firefox's lifetime.) I may have done a poor job, I hope
not, but to say there wasn't a transition plan is not fair. I think
the same is true for Thunderbird, but I wasn't very involved there.
In the case of Thunderbird, we, as a community, spent about 8 months
discussing the best options for the product moving forward. There was
indeed the notion of 'the resources we can spare', but more importantly,
the facts that ' continued innovation in Thunderbird [was] not a
priority for Mozilla's product efforts
<https://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2012/07/06/thunderbird-stability-and-community-innovation/>'
and ' on-going stability [was] the most important thing'. It was the
Thunderbird leadership team responsability to set the limits of what
Mozilla was ready to 'spend' for the ongoing stability effort, and the
community as a whole, to define on the product objectives and new
governance model.
As a matter of fact, and since then, Thunderbird's user base continues
to grow...
That it "seems" this way is a concern. But I'd rather have the
perception of failure than the actual failure here. That SeaMonkey is
still shipping releases as a low-priority Mozilla project almost 10
years later suggests that the transition wasn't a failure.
Kairo can probably say more.
- A
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