Please note that John Jensen is away on vacation for the next two weeks. He 
will surely have thoughts on this proposal.

For my part, I tend to agree with mconnor that decoupling the approval and 
implementation processes seems like the right way to avoid conflicts of 
interest. While I agree that having clearer ownership and accountability around 
data collection and data quality would be very helpful, I think Mike's concerns 
are justified.

-Brendan Colloran

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Connor" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected], "Benjamin Smedberg" 
> <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected], [email protected], "Taras Glek" 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 10:32:55 PM
> Subject: Re: New governance module proposal: Firefox Data Collection
> 
> So, my initial take here is that I’m concerned about this from an oversight
> and governance standpoint.  In general, I try to lean toward checks and
> balances, especially around anything with a privacy aspect.  If the person
> responsible for delivering answers based on data is also the person acting
> as gatekeeper for which data we collect, that feels like an inherent
> conflict of interest on a structural basis.  Adding peers doesn’t really
> solve this problem for me, since I believe an owner should be able to make
> decisions within their sphere without needing a committee.  Where there are
> conflicting mandates, splitting those mandates and requiring
> discussion/negotiation is the best solution I can imagine for that.
> 
> Were I constructing this from scratch, I would separate the technical and
> approval pieces, and have separate owners for each who have to work together
> to keep things in balance.  I agree that the overall problem needs clear
> ownership, but I want to make sure we’re finding the right compromises, and
> compromises are always difficult to find in one’s own head.
> 
> Having suggest that, I’d go further and suggest that Mozilla, as an
> organization, should have a consistent policy and application of that policy
> across products, but the technical requirements and implementation details
> are, by necessity, going to differ significantly, so we might have one
> gatekeeper group for the org, with technical leaders for each project/group.
> 
> I’m not going to nominate people, since I think we should decide what form of
> oversight we want, and then pick the right people to fill those roles (at
> least as much as possible).
> 
> — Mike
> 
> On Aug 15, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Benjamin Smedberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > For a while, there hasn't been a clear decision-maker about data collection
> > practices within Firefox. This includes lack of clarity about who needs to
> > approve changes to Firefox Health Report, as well as uncertainty about
> > what privacy review means and who can "do" a privacy review. To clarify
> > this and streamline the decision-making process, I am proposing to own a
> > policy module for this:
> > 
> > Policy Module: Firefox Data Collection
> > Description: Firefox Data Collection is responsible for the data that
> > Firefox sends back to Mozilla. This includes reviewing both data quality
> > and privacy, and approving new types of pings and measurements. This
> > encompasses measurements included in the current Firefox Health Report,
> > Telemetry, and crash-stats, as well as other data that Firefox sends back
> > such as update and blocklist pings.
> > Owner: Benjamin Smedberg
> > Peers: Taras Glek
> > More information about decision-making:
> > https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Data_Collection
> > 
> > I'm specifically limiting this to Firefox; it does not include Firefox OS.
> > I think Firefox OS should have a clear decision-maker about its product
> > data collection, but I am not that person.
> > 
> > I am open to suggestions/nominations for additional peers.
> > 
> > --BDS
> > 
> > Followup to the governance list, please.
> > 
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