On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 04:34:16PM -0800, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Yvan Boily <[email protected]> wrote: > > Can I ask if you think mailing lists should be private? > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
I don't feel this is a fair comparison and whether a mailing list is private or not is irrelevant. The communications are implicitly logged because of the nature how the messages are sent. For IRC logging is not implied. While there is nothing to prevent someone from independently logging conversations, the notion that all activity is logged and archived for public consumption potentially creates a hostile environment. Consider the implications if someone were to record a meeting professional or not. The mere presence of the recording will perhaps cause those less willing to speak to not speak at all. Perhaps they are self conscious or just fundamentally prefer to be able to choose when their words are made public in this way. This happens with the press all the time. When things are off the record people are more willing to talk and be open and honest, but as soon as there is a recorder and things go on the record statements are calculated and planned. As Yvan pointed out as well there is a notion of PII to consider. In addition to the usernames and messages themselves, logging will track the IDENT username and hostname and timestamps of when a user signs on and off the channel. I feel like if you strongly want logs for a particular channel there are plenty of methods to do this on your own and that having them globally captures and then published is not serving the Community at large so much as a subset of the Community. -r _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
