Very good point about the technical barriers. But what about the non-technical ones, which was the really holding it up? What has changed on our side (the community) to merit the reversal of Mozilla's stance?
I don't want to sound defeatist, but I didn't think there was any change in recent talk on the list on this matter. On Monday, 28 September 2015, Majken Connor <[email protected]> wrote: > Mozilla decided to move to gApps for their mail after we had this > discussion. That should remove some blockers on the technical side. Also > there is a new participation team that is doing more work on defining and > recognizing contributors, which was a blocker on the process side. It seems > like we're at least in a much better place to actually see movement on this > now than we were a year ago. > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Regnard Raquedan <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> Hey Benjamin, >> >> I was pretty active in this discussion LAST YEAR and I pretty much gave >> up in championing the mozilla.org email address on the understanding >> that it's recognition Mozilla is not willing to give any time soon. >> >> Here's what I wrote almost one year ago: >> >> "I'm also getting the impression that from Mozilla's perspective, >> mozilla.org email addresses have such a premium that just giving it to >> Core Contributors would wreck the current economics of rewards and >> recognition. " >> >> >> On Monday, 28 September 2015, Benjamin Kerensa <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> To be totally honest it seems disappointing that were still blocked on >>> this. One issue I do see is we haven't defined a Mozillian well and new >>> hires are vouched as Mozillians instantly and new volunteers can be >>> vouched >>> easily. >>> >>> Vouched Mozillians status has kind of been watered down if you compare it >>> to other open source projects membership or vouching models. See Ubuntu >>> Membership, Debian Developer, Gnome Membership, LibreOffice Membership. >>> >>> Across the open source ecosystem you have to have sustained contributions >>> for months generally or years to earn a status. In Mozilla its handed out >>> nearly instantly and this is not good for a number of reasons. >>> >>> We need leadership support here though we need Mitchell, Chris, Mark and >>> IT >>> Leadership to support this. >>> >>> This is the biggest blocker and if we can get their support I'm sure >>> Participation Team, WPR and IT can figure out a policy and process. >>> >>> On Sep 28, 2015 8:55 AM, "Gareth Aye" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > We talked about this for over a year and there were clearly a lot of >>> good >>> reasons to help people who have been active contributors but aren't (or >>> are >>> no longer) employed by Mozilla identify with the project. I won't always >>> be >>> employed by Mozilla, but it would be meaningful to me to have a long-term >>> Mozilla "identity" when I move on professionally. The issues related to >>> cost and authenticity seem surmountable. Can we really not find a way to >>> work this out? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> governance mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Regnard Raquedan, MBA, MSc.* >> http://weboplex.com >> @regnard <https://twitter.com/regnard> >> >> > -- *Regnard Raquedan, MBA, MSc.* http://weboplex.com @regnard <https://twitter.com/regnard> _______________________________________________ governance mailing list [email protected] https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
