On Sunday 21 May 2006 10:49, john dooley wrote:
> Horst I didnt mean to imply you were against downloads. I also strongly
> support standards based delivery and I totally agree with you on
> everything except the bit about accessing my results delivery server
> from outside with your own software ;)  Would you let me access your
> database from outside with my own software?

Wrong question - because I do not advocate "accessing somebody elses server". 
You stay away from mine, I stay away from yours, and we meet on neutral 
territory - with simple email as transport layer

If we agree to a tried and proven protocol (email with SMTP for sending 
results / acknowledgements, and it is left to the respective side to decide 
whether they do the receiving end as POP or IMAP or whatever protocol) 
neither side ever has to worry about such things.

Reports of any kind we use in medicine never depend on real time delivery, so 
it is a no-brainer staying away from the problems of real time messaging 
protocols. And voila, we avoided all these security and stability issues in 
one single hit.

If your database contains anything of interest for me, you can simply send it.
If you want to provide me with utmost comfort (ability to re-access past 
results, to search etc.) - see below for remote procedure call protocols via 
http.

If for whatever reasons we decide we need real time messaging of some kind, it 
still wouldn't be a major problem if we'd use tried and proven SIMPLE 
protocols (like XML-RPC). Firstly, because you can then rely on tried and 
proven security mechanisms of your trusted http server for the transport 
layer, and secondly because you have a protocol that is very easy to lock 
down - because it is so simple. You are welcome to hit my XML-RPC services 
with anything you like - they will simply ban your IP number if you hit them 
with incorrect / malformed requests too often, but you cannot compromise the 
stability of my system by querying them (e.g. the drugref drug interaction 
service which was just a simple proof of concept gadget, got more than 10,000 
hits an hour during it's heydays from people testing it, and lots of hits 
from some morons trying to wiggle their way into my system, but it never 
caused ant trouble at all).

Horst
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