Thinus
The question is why did HCN not test their products with Vista long ago.
Some medical & non medical software companies did test theirs many many
months ago.  MS made available beta copies to any developer to test their
products.  Only now is HCN doing the testing etc.

Cedric 

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To: 'General Practice Computing Group Talk'
Subject: RE: [GPCG_TALK] Open letter to Medtech



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew N. 
> Shrosbree
> Sent: Friday, 9 February 2007 8:58 PM
> To: General Practice Computing Group Talk
> Subject: Re: [GPCG_TALK] Open letter to Medtech
> 
> All,
> 
> Regardless of how derelict you believe Medtech to be in their
> commitment to their customers, surely we cannot condone such 
> a ruthless and public attack on a business? A business is not 
> a person, but is composed of people who are possibly doing 
> their best. The glacial response from many software vendors 
> is a known irritant, but I propose that a more appropriate 
> solution is to write a letter to the company concerned 
> explaining why you have voted with your feet: by choosing 
> another product.
> 
> Just my opinion.
> Andrew
> 
I consider this a testcase - if there is a good outcome from this and the
problems are addressed I predict it will open a floodgate of similar cases
with the other Vendors. I might even pen the one to HCN - I have given up on
reporting the daily crashes I have with MD3 on all of my workstations, the
disappearing icons and other lesser nuisances. T Btw - can one still buy a
new PC with only XP on it or are we forced to buy Vista? HCN does not
support Vista so if I had to upgrade/add a machine I would have to buy a
Vista machine, take Vista off and load XP which is likely to be a nightmare
of a process.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > FYI: James has forwarded this letter not only to Medtech
> Directors but
> > to the ASX and the Fin Review (AFR).
> > I suppose AusDoc & MedObs will note this as well.
> >
> > Of note, James's list of problems is not exhaustive - many
> of his have
> > existed since 2004 but ours have existed since 2002 and
> still nothing
> > done, we have more problems than have been pointed out in
> this letter.
> >
> > Medtech has been aware, I am told, of this letter since
> Monday, it is
> > their responsibity as a publicly listed company to comply
> and respond
> > to the problems officially raised and will no doubt, reply
> officially to the Stock Exchange.
> >  These things always have ramifications on stock prices and the
> > company's future.
> >
> > fee
> >
> > --- Start of the Attached Message ---
> >
> > From: "James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Mach Dinh-Vu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "Mae Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >   "Medtech Help Desk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >   "Kenneth Wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Open Letter to MedTech Global Limited
> > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:57:29 +1100
> > [ Reply ] [ Reply All ]
> >
> > Date 9 Feb 2007
> >
> >  
> >
> > From
> >
> > James Bishop
> >
> > Longevity Enterprise Pty Ltd
> >
> > 8 Jackson Court
> >
> > Doncaster East
> >
> >  
> >
> > To
> >
> > MedTech Global Limited
> >
> > Level 1
> >
> > 83 Palmerston Crescent
> >
> > South Melbourne, 3205
> >
> >  
> >
> > Attention Members of the Board
> >
> > Mr Vino Ramayah Executive Chairman and CEO
> >
> > Mr Simon Trevisan
> >
> > Mr Ravindan Govindan
> >
> > Mr Shane L. Stone
> >
> > Mr Russell Clarke
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> > Dear Directors
> >
> >  
> > Open letter to Medtech Global Limited
> >
> >  
> > Quick summary
> >
> > The significant amount time taken by doctors and practice
> staff to fix
> > problems and resolve caused as a direct result of failings
> of Medtech
> > software add a considerable burden to Medical Centers who
> currently used Medtech software.
> > Your company?s failure to address these issues has caused
> significant
> > damage to trust and significant loss of goodwill. Several of your
> > existing customers of Medtech software are not likely to be your 
> > customers in the very near future.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Action including a review of you companies software error and fault
> > logging and timely notification of issue and faults to your 
> customers
> > and ongoing development needs to meet your customers are
> urgently required.
> >
> >  
> >
> > You may/should be alarmed to hear a new doctor at my practice used
> > several software platforms over the last two years during 
> GP training
> > program. He rates Medtech32 clinically as the 2nd worst of the 5
> > medical software programs he has used.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Your failure to inform the stock market of some of these
> problems may
> > be an issued for the Australian Stock Exchange Continuous
> Disclosure
> > Rules specifically Chapter 3.1.
> >
> >  
> > Other Background
> >
> >  
> >
> > In December 2005 Medtech staff and I discussed several Medtech
> > software problems and very specifically ongoing support issues. I 
> > expressed my dissatisfaction that frequently I was told by your 
> > support staff issues and problems I raised had not been reported at 
> > any other sites when I later found that many or most other 
> sites using
> > Medtech software were experiencing and reporting the same faults.
> > Medtech staff agreed with me known faults with Medtech should be 
> > advised to users to enable us to deal with the faults until 
> you could fix them.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Medtech staff suggested to me many of my problems and
> issues would be
> > resolved by Version 5. Later I was assured 5.1 would fix my ongoing
> > existing or new issues. When I was still experiencing 
> problems I was
> > told many of my problems with Medtech software would be solved by
> > upgrading the Medtech data base to Interbase 7.5. I paid for and 
> > installed Interbase 7.5. I still have many of my original 
> issues and a
> > dozen new problems including new unacceptable possible
> legal issues and accounting and attribution problems.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Medtech staff assured me most support issues would be fixed
> by moving
> > the support functions to Sydney from New Zealand. This has not
> > occurred, lower level support is now much worse than the 
> previous New
> > Zealand based staff provided.
> >
> >  
> >
> > I was told a Medtech user forum/portal and issue register
> would occur
> > in early 2006 which would list current issues. I later received an
> > emailed of a revised timeframe of August/Sept 2006 timeframe. Your 
> > website now states it might be 2nd quarter 2007.
> >
> >  
> >
> > It is odd that an issues or fault register (forum/portal) doesn?t
> > already exist for MT32 users. It is poor customer service 
> on your part
> > not to alert all users to possible or known serious
> problems. As with
> > most things in life or business, honesty and openness tend to avoid
> > problems. Secrets and hiding problems cause or compound 
> problems further.
> >
> >  
> >
> > It may be necessary to for users to pay for major upgrades such as
> > occurred with MD2 to MD3 when they moved to an SQL database. Fixing 
> > basic ongoing problem is not a major upgrade it is required 
> customer
> > service or a warranty issue.
> >
> >  
> >
> > A some of the issues below have possible legal implications for my
> > doctors and the practice. The legal risks I face if a MT32 systems 
> > failure caused me or others to be sued may be shared by 
> Medtech if the
> > failure is caused by an issue Medtech is aware of but
> failed to tell
> > me or other software users about.
> >
> >  
> > Medtech software -Possible legal issues
> >
> > I think possible legal issues for myself or others could occur as a
> > result of errors with Medtech Software for the following 
> problems. The
> > possible legal issue may involve the Medicare Office, Professional
> > Service Review audits, underpaid or overpayment of doctors 
> or failure
> > to provide required medical care due to medtech software issues:
> >
> >  
> >
> > 1.      Accounting- Attribution (Provider Income) altering 
> in private accounts
> > 07/2006
> >
> > 2.      Accounting- Unable to correct invoicing errors 12/2005
> >
> > 3.      Accounting- Quickbills remaining active 
> indefinitely. Causing old
> > quickbills to overwrite any new quickbill with the items billed and
> > service provider and provider income details days, months or years 
> > later . Incorrect doctor being paid for services they did 
> not perform
> > 12/2006
> >
> > 4.      MIMS updates - We pay for monthly Mims updates but 
> due to MEDTECH
> > issues can only receive and use a MIMs quarterly update 09/2005
> >
> > 5.      INR Daily results - daily INR results are 
> inactivated by Medtech.
> > The Doctors comments including possibly daily alterations to dosage
> > are hidden from view (unless filter is manually applied to include 
> > inactivated results)
> > 08/2006
> >
> > 6.      Medtech Support staff who are uninformed or 
> untrained or dishonest
> > who state common known issues are unknown or specific to my
> site only.
> > Your companies failure to warn me and other users of known problems
> > which cause ongoing faults/harm/damage which could be managed or 
> > controlled if you had the courtesy to inform/warn people of 
> the fault
> > with your software- ongoing
> >
> >  
> > Medtech software -Issues which affect day to day operations of my
> > practice and cost time and money to control of rectify
> >
> > 7.      Appointment Overview or Appointment pad issues
> >
> > 7.1.   Patient status altering from ?arrived? to ?in 
> consultation? without
> > any doctor or staff actions 09/2005
> >
> > 7.2.   System allow staff to double book time slots 09/2005
> >
> > 8.      Reports -Patient Reports - Unable to include option 
> to print In Box
> > Documents- it aborts whole process- 03/2005
> >
> > 9.      Accounting- Unable to correct invoicing errors 09/2005
> >
> > 10.  Accounting-  Online claims transmitted. MT32
> incorrectly showing
> > that the transmission was successful and no errors When
> Medicare can
> > confirm with an error type 9616 ?Bank details error?.  03/2006
> >
> > 11.  Accounting-  online claims transmitted MT32 fails to
> tell us the
> > error or the error code when it is being rejected by
> Medicare. 03/2006
> >
> > 12.  Accounting- Medicare Benefits Schedule updates
> received days or
> > weeks after the effective date for the account changes- Onging
> >
> > 13.  Accounting- Batch reports not populating required
> fields 12/2006
> >
> > 14.  Accounting- Insurance Cheque payments all paid and unpaid
> > invoices displayed when receipting cheque received 12/2006
> >
> > 15.  Accounting- Account details displayed at Account summary level
> > but not if invoice is opened 06/2006
> >
> > 16.  Accounting- Error loop created when invoicing
> requiring MT32 to
> > be closed via Windows Task Manger before the affected computer can
> > access Medtech again
> >
> > 17.  PDF file- Inability to import and store PDF files into new
> > patient documents or as scanned documents 03/2006
> >
> > 18.  Vaccine mapping- (and other mapping requirements)- Each site
> > being required to enter coding and mapping details to 
> enable functions
> > and Mt32 ACIR transmission tool to work- Ongoing
> >
> > 18.1.                    ACIR transmission faults and 
> errors when the vaccine
> > complies with MT32 supplied ?ACIR Vaccs.pdf? Ongoing
> >
> > 19.  Lack of software built into Medtech32 allowing remote access
> > control for Medtech support staff
> >
> > 20.  Obvious lack of Australian General Practice doctor or practice
> > management input into design, functions and development of 
> Medtech 32
> >
> >  
> > Medtech software - Other Issues
> >
> > 21.  Accounting or online patient verification- Medicare online
> > patient claim or OPV confirmation window hidden locking or 
> preventing
> > use of MT32 until staff use Alt & TAB to see the information tab
> > 06/2006
> >
> > 22.  Displayed name incorrect- Name- preferred - and real
> name 09/2006
> >
> > 23.  Text creation and editing significantly poorer than competing
> > software products
> >
> > 24.  Scanning tool not working with some multi function printers
> >
> > 25.  Care plan modules - not as effective as several other E.P.C.
> > tools
> >
> > 26.  Memory issues on workstations which only affect MT32- requires
> > closing and opening MT32 to resolve
> >
> > 27.  Obstetrics and other mapping requirements- Each site being
> > required to enter coding and mapping details to enable core 
> functions
> > and Mt32 tools to work Ongoing
> >
> > 28.  Medtech user forum/portal- ?August/Sept timeframe (2006)?
> >
> > 29.  The cost of Interbase 7.5 and marginal improvements resulting
> >
> > 30.  Inability to apply most required software patches and upgrades
> > during business hours.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Some of the above issues will be addressed by your next
> upgrade. Many
> > of the issues I consider serious will not!
> >
> >  
> > Responses to date
> >
> > ?         A patch to fix accounting attribution errors 
> expected 14 Feb 2006-
> > Chrissie advised by Mach Dinh-Vu 9Feb
> >
> > ?         ACIR vaccine error- Mae Taylor Resolved 7 Feb 06
> >
> > ?         Promised improvements in logging and dealing with 
> faults - Mach
> > Dinh-Vu 9 Feb 06
> >
> > Support or Medtech staff including Mae-Sydney, Chrissie-NZ and
> > Kenneth-NZ have provided good or great  support.
> >
> > Yours truly,
> >
> > James Bishop
> >   
> --
> Andrew N. Shrosbree B.Sc, B.Ec
> Technical Architect
> ArgusConnect Pty Ltd
> http://www.argusconnect.com.au
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> 
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