sorry for the cross-threadng but no prblm if one d look beyond a thread is it true that nobody in the forum wanted him to make his stand on clear? i dont know again sorry
On 3/25/08, salimtk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > comrade gp lamented here for his abuse mail threat and this mail thread is > about it. nobody wish his intervention on Chengara struggle.. > > On 3/25/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > if the "cultural Leaders" need not give explanations for their silences > > why should we compel GP to give explanations.. (recallng previous cultural > > leaders/feminists' silence on chitralekha issue debate in the same forum) > > so... dileep, sanjeev, salim could demand anything from any one, and if > > some one else try to reflect upon the state of actvsm (Ref: chitralekha) > > it's a big problem > > hmmmm..... nice theory and methodology..future reserachers should learn > > from it > > > > > > > > On 3/25/08, salimtk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > and seee dileep promises his silence to break the silence of comrade > > > GP. what for all these!!!? to get the good certificate from the 'big > > > brother'? when these intellectual rowdies shamelessly justify the killing > > > in > > > nadigram and talking against chengara struggle, do we need to be polite? > > > > > > On 3/25/08, aryakrishnan ramakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/25/08, Jenson Joseph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I publicly apologise to comrade GP. I wrote that in a fit of > > > > anger. Now > > > > > please do your part of explanation, please > > > > > > > > > > Jenson > > > > > > > > A good move, you should aplogise. Actually we all should apologise. > > > > Not only to GP, but to other comrades also and the party. > > > > > > > > Why are you all demanding an explanation from him? Is in't it okay > > > > to > > > > ignore the local trivias, when there are serious burning affairs in > > > > the world? Let us think of Global warming. Human beings are in > > > > threat > > > > as a species. May be some of us have grown to a point where they > > > > donot > > > > feel about the local, small issues. Like for example Jayati Ghosh, > > > > Prabhat Patnaik and many other intellectuals did not want to comment > > > > on some small killings and few rapes in Nandigram; they spent their > > > > valuable time and energy in explaining the threat of imperialism. > > > > And > > > > Bengal and kerala are the only states where imperialism is resisted. > > > > We have to see how party is struggling to not let the forces come > > > > in. > > > > It is very difficult even for Achudanandan, though he comes from a > > > > trade union. > > > > > > > > A communist is one who oppose imperialism, and that is a western > > > > thing, you know!. After all the state is run by the party. And > > > > whether > > > > it is VS or pinarayi they are malayalis. And all land should go to > > > > them. We ought to think of things in the larger context as Prakash > > > > Karat and Vrinda thinks. There are big international moves happening > > > > to take away Kerala. And the multi national companies, neo > > > > liberalism, > > > > market oriented capitalism, privatisation, GM products etc etc are > > > > there to fight with. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Dileep Raj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > None of G P Ramachandran's mail were ridiculed in this forum > > > > > > in the past. Even now,what is questioned is his silence . > > > > > > ( as for me, i even predicted in a response to Shahina that CPIm > > > > wing > > > > > intellectuals will wwait for happenings in some part of the world > > > > in order > > > > > to reappear with fresh energy) > > > > > > > > > > > > The specific question asked was on PuKaSa's standpoint > > > > > > on NightVigil supporting Chengara. His position on nandigram > > > > > > which support CPIM stand. ( It is his positions which are being > > > > > criticised) > > > > > > > > > > > > The context and timing of his forwarded appeal invoked critical > > > > > > response. > > > > > > > > > > > > I personally didn't have anything against him. > > > > > > > > > > > > So, don't understand what prevents him from entering into a > > > > discussion. > > > > > > I am ready to remain silent on this thread if he believes that > > > > it only > > > > > will ensure a > > > > > > 'democratic' discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Bobby Kunhu < > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Forwarding this to the list, as I think it might be fruitful > > > > to have a > > > > > democratic discussion in this light on Chengara and the CPI(M)'s > > > > take on the > > > > > struggle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > > > > From: Ramachandran G P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Date: 24 Mar 2008 20:18 > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [GreenYouth] without comments > > > > > > > To: Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bobby > > > > > > > I am not a spokesperson of CPIM, Deshabhimani or Kairali. I do > > > > not > > > > > > > understand the position taken by the friends, that unless you > > > > publicly > > > > > > > comment on a particular issue supporting Dilip raj, all of > > > > your > > > > > > > observations, e mails will be ridiculed. I am ready for an > > > > open and > > > > > > > public discussion, if these friends have any faith in > > > > democracy. > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/24/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Ramachandran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Without prejudices to anyone's mortality or immortality, > > > > political > > > > > party, > > > > > > > > individual or state, one must definitely condemn personal > > > > abuses and > > > > > > > > threats in a discussion, within any democratic fora. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With all due respect and solidarity to the Palestinian > > > > Struggle, it > > > > > would be > > > > > > > > nice if you could share your perspective on CPIM's stand (if > > > > you are > > > > > > > > speaking on behalf of that party) or your personal position > > > > vis-a-vis > > > > > > > > Chengara and Nandigram, especially in the light of your > > > > purported > > > > > article in > > > > > > > > Deshabhimani, which I unfortunately have not seen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope that you would respond soon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 24/03/2008, Ramachandran G P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is a mail i got in my mail box. jenson joseph send > > > > it. long > > > > > live > > > > > > > > democracy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello mr ramachandran, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > talk about chengara now. Not israel. okay? I get another > > > > forward > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > you about Israel to Greenyouth, without claryfying your > > > > and your > > > > > > > > > organisation's stand on Chengara struggle and the ugly > > > > reports in > > > > > > > > > Deshabhimani, your inbox will be full of abuse mails. mind > > > > it... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > G P Ramachandran > > > > > > > > > AKAM, PERIMBADARI PO > > > > > > > > > MANNARKKAD, PALAKKAD DT > > > > > > > > > KERALA, INDIA > > > > > > > > > 04924 223990, 09447239544 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KERALA, INDIA > > > > > > > 04924 223990, 09447239544 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Bobby Kunhu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. 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