Dear Rohit,

What interested me in the discussion was the set of 'qualifying' conditions
imagined for supporting the boycot. "If I were in a desert", "At least in
front of the samarappandal"...  naomi Clein writes in No Logo about the
possibility of allinaces fascilitated by the symbols. It becomes more
political when students in 'developed' countries boycot Nyckie ( I am not
sure about the spelling :)) while knowing about the
human rights violation in factories located in third world countries.
When we do it in front of the samarappandal, it indeed is to 'convince' some
onlookers.

I am afraid, some UGC professors in Kerala wear khadar jubbas, not because
they don't have desire for other products nor because they lack resourses ,
but being afraid of the 'people' who will judge them while they speak on
public issues.

If somebody mixes cola in whisky ( in private) after boycotting it in public
(in front of samarappandal), the same moralists will aprove that as
politically correct. Because you are not causing damage to the struggle!

Why do we experience guilt while drinking cola? Out of our inability to
support Plachimada struggle or out of our image consciousness?

The main demands of plachimada struggle at this point are,

Cola quit Plachimada and Compensate
Prosecute criminal Coca Cola

Is boycotting effective as major  strategy in supporting these  demands?

On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Rohit Shetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Dilieep,
>
> I don't think that product users are not un-qualified to participate in
> the struggles.
>
> I support the ex-workers of Hindustan Lever in Kodaikanal - but have still
> not been able to boycott all Unilever products in my life. I speak against
> Nestle's child rights abuses in cocoa farms, but I still eat Maggi Noodles.
> These are cases where we can atleast know the products and identify
> alternatives. However in the case of Dow Chemicals, I may not even know if
> the dye in the shirt I'm wearing has a Dow product in it. But that still
> does not stop me from supporting the Bhopalis.
>
> Bocycotting can be interpreted as political correctness, but its not an
> absolute in itself. A fellow protestor may not agree with boycotting and
> there could some valid reasons of not boycotting too. However, I would just
> like to look at boycot as one of the many means in which to support an issue
> in an atmosphere where we agree to disagree.
>
> I share your concerns about judgement. Infact I have myself been somewhat
> judgemental in expressing reservations in many discourses on caste when it
> happens in elitist circles. Nevertheless, judgement has its place, but we
> ought to be smart enough not to make them a bottleneck
>
> Rohit
>
>
>   On 4/10/08, Dileep Raj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > "The other important thing here is to recognise the symbols - Coke is a
> > symbol of water-rights and environmental abuse"
> >
> > Do symbols overpower us at times?
> >
> > Suppose the product is an undergarment or condum. Will there be a
> > conspicous campaign to boycot
> > it?
> >
> > Another concern always disturbed me in discusiions like this is about
> > the judgemental nature of it.
> > ( I am sure, once I take part in this discussion, i will be judged)
> >
> > Is boycotting a symbol of the political correctness of the boycotters?
> > The performative nature of such acts need to be rethought.
> >
> > Most of the time, those who are not in the least sympathetic to the
> > struggle raise such allegations against those who support it.
> >
> > Laha Gopalan, owns land, so he is not morally qualified to lead the land
> > struggle.
> >
> > This guy uses this product, so s/he is not qualified to support this
> > struggle.
> >
> > When boycotting itself is a form of struggle, the situation is
> > different. Otherwise I always doubt such "impeachments".
> > I stand by Aryan's sincere position here.  Not that others are
> > hypocratic.
> > But there is a fear factor underneath, I am 'afraid'
> >
> >  On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:23 PM, salimtk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > dear Aryan,
> > >  as rohit said, will it not be an insult to the people n organizations
> > > around the world, who struggle against cola if u drink it? at least, isnt 
> > > it
> > > basic courtesy no to drink it infront of a samara panthal? when a boycot
> > > appeal against criminal cola is raised, what will be the primary action 
> > > one
> > > has to take? cola products include all products coke produces including
> > > kinley exploting local water resource unjustly. isnt it our 'ethical'
> > > commitment no to drink any cola products in kierala as long as the
> > > plachimada struggle continues?
> > > love
> > > salim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On 4/9/08, aryakrishnan ramakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 12:04 AM, salimtk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > any ethical question in drinking cola?
> > > > >
> > > > Dear Salim,
> > > > I was very apologetic and closetted about my liking for coca cola.
> > > > Still I like the taste of the cola. I dont have any opposition to
> > > > the
> > > > cola based on health grounds or ethical grounds. Tropicana juice ,
> > > > that natural flavoured one also come from Pepsico in India. If they
> > > > exploit people I will support that struggle also, but will I stop
> > > > drinking it?
> > > >
> > > > Is the opposition towards cocacola or is it against their corporate
> > > > policies and double standard in Plachimada? I would say my
> > > > opposition
> > > > is towards the second.
> > > >
> > > > Aryan
> > > > ps. I dont understand the logic of drinking tropicana and avoiding
> > > > cocacola for political reasons.
> > > >
> > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>


-- 
Dileep R I thuravoor

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