Hello,
Is it not possible to democratize the society without the trademark called
"caste "? Why you want to continue to label a certain population as Dalits and
seclude them from the rest of the society ?
Dalits are becoming scapegoats in the name of reservation. Why you want to
separate them from the mainstream and then try to unite? There are some
feminists who accept the label called "women " and then try to become man . In
reality , the label "women" is only a myth . It is a mark imposed by men to
exploit the so called women . Similarly what is happening is ,a label is
imposed upon SCs/STs to alienate and target them . This is why " Harijan
colonies" are made and nobody turns upto the development of that area. In this
way, untouchability is reinforced. I have many Dalit friends who have expressed
similar views . We believe in a society where there are no labels like Dalits,
women , men etc, but only homosapiens.
regards
sreenivas
bangalore
Afthab Ellath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Anti reservation remarks are not aimed at dalits but to oppose any move
to compartmentalize the education system based on caste and religion .
This is how the cateist neo-liberal neocon view (read Mr Murali in different
threads) align with that of the 'secularist' state communists, on cast
question... They are very much concerned with the caste question when it is
raised for the democratization of the society.. Otherwise they are very much
comfortable with that....
>> It is a truth that the real beneficiaries of reservation policy are not
dalits . If the reservation is not aimed at vote banks , why the government is
ignoring Adivasis and other tribal groups? what is the use of providing
reservation to dalits when they lack basic amenities like food and shelter ?
Why it happens? Why the places where dalits and minority live are excluded
from infrastructural developments like roads, schools, electricity, water (read
sachar and many other reports) ? Why the probem of "good governance" (again
from Murali) is also a specific dalit and minority problem?
Still we shouldn't talk about the dalit respresentation in governance.... It
will "deeply divide" our society...
Regards
Afthab
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:46 AM, C.K. Vishwanath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I would like to reject your meritocratic arguments
fully.And i saw your the hindu letter as well.we know
the first generation graduates of india's
meritocracy in 19th century(-the credit goes to
chandraben prasad-dalit diary).Most of those savarnna
students were third rate graduates (opinion given by
british professors).
Your arguments are in league with thacher-regan
consensus.Where is the level playing field for india's
entire subarltern section of the society?
--- "sreenivas v.p" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The "reservation politics" has diluted the quality
> of higher education in the country .Instead of
> giving reservation, what the government needs to do
> is to provide better living condition for the
> citizens . Let each individual work hard and come up
> in life . We should throw away the democratic system
> inorder to protect our education sector.
> regards
> sreenivas
> bangalore
>
>
>
>
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> "C.K. Vishwanath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> Note: forwarded message attached.
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> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 08:41:46 -0500 (CDT)
> Subject: ACHR Review: The Gujjar protest and
> reservation politics
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> The ongoing protests by Gujjars in Rajasthan have
> already claimed at least
> 38 lives. The showdown is likely to intensify with
> the Gujjar protestors
> blocking the National Highway linking Jaipur to
> Delhi, and the security
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> In the last two decades, affirmative actions have
> been diluted for vote
> bank politics. The Central government of India must
> find a holistic
> solution to the demand for Scheduled Tribe status by
> several groups and
> for that matter the government must develop or lay
> down clear criteria
> required for being recognized as Scheduled Tribes.
> There are over 100
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> Ministry of Tribal Affairs
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> attempts to find a
> solution only for the Gujjars, it will open the
> Pandora box.
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