On a lighter vein, Justice Bhattacharjee (former CJ of Bombay High Court) was teaching us "ancient Indian Jurisprudenc" - essentially the smritis and mimamsas, and the guy was showing off his knowledge of sanskrit and ended up conversing in sanskrit with an LL.M student, who was sitting into his lectures - to the consternation of the whole class, until one of our classmates got up on the pretext of asking a doubt and abused in Kannada. When Justice Bhattacharjea claimed he did not understand a word of this classmate's doubt, he responded that the class had not understood a word of what had been going on.
*This post is not up for discussion :)* On 04/07/2008, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 7/3/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >>If news, ideas, viewpoints etc are made known to the readers, viewers or >> listeners through a medium then it can not constitute a public sphere, even >> when there is a public who gather around that medium however discretely in >> space and time. >> >> >> It may not be the case if you take an Andersnian position and tries to >> look at nation as a constituted public sphere. And in the vein of McLuhan, >> can't utter "Medium is the message and massage".. >> >> the wonderful thing about Habermasian public sphere is that it assumes an >> ideal *space for freedom of expression.* the medium itself need not, but >> the way it extend human senses does the magic, perhaps >> > > > Renju,' > It would also be worth noting that Habermas himself has critiqued the very > concept of "public sphere" in his work structural tranformation of public > sphere. In one of the last chapter of this work on "Transformation of Public > Sphere's Political Function", he is excplicit not only about the limits > of the term but how the *manipulated public sphere is taken over by an > acclamation-prone mood that predominates and result is that an opinion > climate subsumes public opinions. (* Structural Transformation of Public > Sphere, Polity Press, 1989) > Habermas also points to the penetration of state and society with each > other that brings forth a *middle sphere of semipublic*. (P231, ibid) The > State-aligned NGOs are succesful in establishing such semi public spheres > were the *urgency to consensus and immediacy to conclude on areas which > contravene the entreched understanding* whether it be science, politics, > secularism or any sort of trivia. > > Habermas further states that the politically influential representatives of > cultural and religious forces the entreching of private interests in the > face of the 'neomercantilism" which leads to *refedualization".* *The > apparently progressives in society in the wake of a emergent popular radical > politics retreats to the refedualize the public sphere*. Habermas > concerns perhaps with the delimits and contravening forces within the > modernity. But let us also think critically how the self-proclaimed semi > public spheres are shaped in contexts familiar to us. > > *Public Sphere* from the inception of the term like Communism is a *social > fantasy- and *hence* ahistorica*l. But like the impulsivity of historical > materialism to locate Communism outside history, Habermas suitably finds a > locale and period for claiming the historical specificity. Like the several > 'idealized' *semi public spheres of our times, we find the supposedly > 'ideal space' as discriminatory*. Habermas and *all those who still adores > * the fantasy of 'public sphere" never saw or rather failed *to see the > exclusion of different voices - - woman, dalit, muslim, sexual minorities- > minoirty voices with a difference*. > > > damodar > > > PS: am also compelled go think of a kerala model public sphere, which could > be artificially correct but politically wrong. But now; later. > > > > (let me rethink . this s just a first response. > >> >> >> -- Bobby Kunhu http://community.eldis.org/myshkin/Blog/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
