if there is a new power formation within resistance, surely there will be resistance to this and this will surely produce new jokes..
to damodar's questions, yes i agreee with you all that we say about any representation can apply to jokes the political analysis of pleasure is not an end in itself.. but we cannot talk against it in the name of pleasure itself - this would be amounting to saying that we should/cannot imagine or create new and resisting pleasures then we need not do any analysis jenny On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:16 PM, James Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does this mean that Jenny laughs only when people who are part of power > structures are made fun of? > Then what about my question: does a joke about a power structure legitimise > the power structure? > To use Jenny's own argument: if a joke is enough to vent your anger against > structures then that itself forms the greatest ideological tool for > maintaining its status quo. In that sense there is no joke against dominant > structures! > For example*, Pokki vidan aalundengil ethu pattikum* : In this joke does > *patti > *refer to also Mani? > :) > > 2008/10/22 damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hm.. thetii poye.. already applied for sorry >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Shahina KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> >>> Look man, not sunil but ANIL!!! >>> >>> >>> On 10/22/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Shahina, >>>> >>>> What did Jenny say,?.. I think Jenny's argument is in direct opposition >>>> to what sunil says. Correct me If I am wrong!! >>>> Oh.ya.. you are saying that both are true... then it is a joke!! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Shahina KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Anil,I perfectly agree with you and Jenny >>>>> >>>>> warmly >>>>> shahina >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 10/22/08, Anil Tharayath Varghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> My only take on this is not to generalise sections for jokes let it be >>>>>> personality oriented. I am not saying it will not be biased... how >>>>>> does one look at this?? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 22, 3:16 pm, "Shahina KK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> > what about 'Namboori phalitham' ? Is it politcally correct? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > shahina >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On 10/22/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > As a project one can analyze all the presently available jokes and >>>>>> seek >>>>>> > > proscribing of all those caste-class prejudiced jokes and supply a >>>>>> new >>>>>> > > collection of politically correct jokes.. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > I think as a model definitely Stalin must have done this along >>>>>> with >>>>>> > > Zhadanov.. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > The consequences of an innocuous joke like Long Live Trotsky was a >>>>>> disaster >>>>>> > > in post- soviet union invaded Prague. I think every one has read >>>>>> it!! >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > Or if this model is limiting, one can also look at >>>>>> the neo-peasantry model >>>>>> > > of POL POT where laughter itself was politically wrong!! >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese < >>>>>> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> James not onle our class caste.... there are many >>>>>> prejudices........ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> when i come across a politically correct joke Ill post it ok >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> first try laughing at one's self... this is a recommendation >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> On Oct 22, 2:43 pm, "damodar prasad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > >> > Is camera permitted inside Press Clubs.. I mean to get very >>>>>> politically >>>>>> > >> > sensitive pictures of toothless but radical *Pambs*... and if >>>>>> with sound >>>>>> > >> > bites. it would've been very interesting.. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:01 PM, James Michael < >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> > >> wrote: >>>>>> > >> > > Jokes are almost always about our class-caste prejudices. Can >>>>>> anyone >>>>>> > >> > > suggest a politically correct joke please? >>>>>> > >> > > Or is it that people can't joke in this part of the world? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> > > 2008/10/22 jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> > > exactly !! >>>>>> > >> > >> *when will we wake up to the class-caste prejudices that are >>>>>> deeply >>>>>> > >> > >> embedded in our jokes, images and analysis ???? >>>>>> > >> > >> * >>>>>> > >> > >> jenny >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> > >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese < >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> The "page 3" ones who sits and drink scotches and vomit in >>>>>> their >>>>>> > >> > >>> luxurious flushes is a luxury..... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> The representation is pathetic. Devika please do not >>>>>> translate and >>>>>> > >> if >>>>>> > >> > >>> at all do not exhibit the photos please...... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> On Oct 22, 12:32 pm, "ranju radha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> > >> > >>> > there are some other kinds of "snakes" who have national >>>>>> claim to >>>>>> > >> be >>>>>> > >> > >>> THE >>>>>> > >> > >>> > SNAKE. but those fotos may not be available for >>>>>> circulation. It >>>>>> > >> would >>>>>> > >> > >>> be >>>>>> > >> > >>> > very kind to organise a national excibition once THE WE >>>>>> get those >>>>>> > >> > >>> photos for >>>>>> > >> > >>> > circulation. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >> > >>> > regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> > > > -- > James Michael > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. 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