Poleesukaran is that kakki kuppayam for me...
Regards
Afthab Ellath
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Shahina KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Hello, Afthab, so you are not disturbed by a 'pavam policukaran' being
> laughed at? Dare you to replace him with DGP?
> shahina
>
>
> On 10/22/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Jenny,
>>
>> even as I agree with you. may I ask you a few doubts:
>>
>> Let us take any joke for that matter.. do you think it will only
>> communicate one dimensionally through all generations? I don't have a
>> example right now. what I mean a joke which served one peculiar ideological
>> purpose in one time may can have directly opposing purpose in another. In
>> the sense that one time power structure serving joke used in altogether
>> different context may be challenging the power or any structure. I don't
>> have an example in this regard now.
>>
>> {I am reminded not of a joke. But a poem. Kuthirakumbo by Ayyappa
>> Panicker. It was read by Harris as a politcal poem in the emergency context.
>> Satchi mash reiterated this argument and Harris himself challenged it by
>> reading it in altogether different dimension} .
>>
>> ( Jenny, I will be happy if you this time would not call my scrap as
>> "academic poetry", Pls.)
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:07 PM, jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>
>>> Friends,
>>>
>>> Every joke, namboodiri, lower caste, or sexist has an ideological
>>> purpose..
>>>
>>> So the problem is not with joking, the problem is with the ideology
>>> associated with jokes.
>>>
>>> Ideologically i stand against hegemonic power structures..
>>> So i get lots of pleasure in making direct fun of these power structures.
>>>
>>> (without using subalterns as scape goats)
>>>
>>> Let me say from my memory one joke, which always makes me laugh
>>> especially in the context of what happens around.. in every field,
>>> including academics..
>>>
>>> *This is from a Mimicry program. Here a man is asking Kalabhavan Mani
>>> some questions in a job interview.
>>>
>>> Man: 1995 America Bahiraakashathekku oru pattiye vittu. Athine patti
>>> ningalude abhipraayam??
>>> (In 1995, America sent a dog to space, what do you think of it?)
>>>
>>> Kalabhavan Mani: Pokkividaan aalundenkil ethu pattikkum mukalil ethaam.
>>> (If there is someone to help you up, any dog can reach the top)
>>> * *
>>> *I think this is a very political joke and is against dominant
>>> structures,
>>> and does not hurt anyone but those who are in power...
>>> i can't stop laughing when i hear such jokes..
>>> it helps me vent my anger too ...
>>>
>>> there are many feminist jokes like this too-
>>>
>>> so the point is not about joking, but about the purposes which a joke
>>> serves and who it hurts and uses...
>>>
>>> are we going to say we need not think about this?
>>> then WHY do analysis, politics, cultural studies?
>>> can't we just sit back and relax in various pleasure domes
>>> and keep on laughing even when the joke is on US???
>>>
>>> jenny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Shahina KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> what about 'Namboori phalitham' ? Is it politcally correct?
>>>>
>>>> shahina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/22/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> As a project one can analyze all the presently available jokes and seek
>>>>> proscribing of all those caste-class prejudiced jokes and supply a new
>>>>> collection of politically correct jokes..
>>>>>
>>>>> I think as a model definitely Stalin must have done this along with
>>>>> Zhadanov..
>>>>>
>>>>> The consequences of an innocuous joke like Long Live Trotsky was a
>>>>> disaster in post- soviet union invaded Prague. I think every one has read
>>>>> it!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Or if this model is limiting, one can also look at the neo-peasantry
>>>>> model of POL POT where laughter itself was politically wrong!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese <
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James not onle our class caste.... there are many prejudices........
>>>>>>
>>>>>> when i come across a politically correct joke Ill post it ok
>>>>>>
>>>>>> first try laughing at one's self... this is a recommendation
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 22, 2:43 pm, "damodar prasad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > Is camera permitted inside Press Clubs.. I mean to get very
>>>>>> politically
>>>>>> > sensitive pictures of toothless but radical *Pambs*... and if with
>>>>>> sound
>>>>>> > bites. it would've been very interesting..
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:01 PM, James Michael <
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> > > Jokes are almost always about our class-caste prejudices. Can
>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>> > > suggest a politically correct joke please?
>>>>>> > > Or is it that people can't joke in this part of the world?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > > 2008/10/22 jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > exactly !!
>>>>>> > >> *when will we wake up to the class-caste prejudices that are
>>>>>> deeply
>>>>>> > >> embedded in our jokes, images and analysis ????
>>>>>> > >> *
>>>>>> > >> jenny
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese <
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>> The "page 3" ones who sits and drink scotches and vomit in their
>>>>>> > >>> luxurious flushes is a luxury.....
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>> The representation is pathetic. Devika please do not translate
>>>>>> and if
>>>>>> > >>> at all do not exhibit the photos please......
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>> On Oct 22, 12:32 pm, "ranju radha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > >>> > there are some other kinds of "snakes" who have national claim
>>>>>> to be
>>>>>> > >>> THE
>>>>>> > >>> > SNAKE. but those fotos may not be available for circulation.
>>>>>> It would
>>>>>> > >>> be
>>>>>> > >>> > very kind to organise a national excibition once THE WE get
>>>>>> those
>>>>>> > >>> photos for
>>>>>> > >>> > circulation.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >>> > regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>
>> >>
>>
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