Paavam patty (poor dog) ....

Regards

Afthab Ellath


On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:37 PM, jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Friends,
>
> Every joke, namboodiri, lower caste, or sexist has an ideological purpose..
>
>
> So the problem is not with joking, the problem is with the ideology
> associated with jokes.
>
> Ideologically i stand against hegemonic power structures..
> So i get lots of pleasure in making direct fun of these power structures.
> (without using subalterns as scape goats)
>
> Let me say from my memory one joke, which always makes me laugh
> especially in the context of what happens around.. in every field,
> including academics..
>
> *This is from a Mimicry program. Here a man is asking Kalabhavan Mani some
> questions in a job interview.
>
> Man: 1995 America Bahiraakashathekku oru pattiye vittu. Athine patti
> ningalude abhipraayam??
> (In 1995, America sent a dog to space, what do you think of it?)
>
> Kalabhavan Mani: Pokkividaan aalundenkil ethu pattikkum mukalil ethaam.
> (If there is someone to help you up, any dog can reach the top)
> **
> *I think this is a very political joke and is against dominant structures,
>
> and does not hurt anyone but those who are in power...
> i can't stop laughing when i hear such jokes..
> it helps me vent my anger too ...
>
> there are many  feminist jokes like this too-
>
> so the point is not about joking, but about the purposes which a joke
> serves and who it hurts and uses...
>
> are we going to say we need not think about this?
> then WHY do analysis, politics, cultural studies?
> can't we just sit back and relax in various pleasure domes
> and keep on laughing even when the joke is on US???
>
> jenny
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Shahina KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> what about 'Namboori phalitham' ? Is it politcally correct?
>>
>> shahina
>>
>>
>> On 10/22/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> As a project one can analyze all the presently available jokes and seek
>>> proscribing of all those caste-class prejudiced jokes and supply a new
>>> collection of politically correct jokes..
>>>
>>> I think as a model definitely Stalin must have done this along with
>>> Zhadanov..
>>>
>>> The consequences of an innocuous joke like Long Live Trotsky was a
>>> disaster in post- soviet union invaded Prague. I think every one has read
>>> it!!
>>>
>>> Or if this model is limiting, one can also look at the  neo-peasantry
>>> model of POL POT where laughter itself was politically wrong!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese <
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> James not onle our class caste.... there are many prejudices........
>>>>
>>>> when i come across a politically correct joke Ill post it ok
>>>>
>>>> first try laughing at one's self... this is a recommendation
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 22, 2:43 pm, "damodar prasad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> > Is camera permitted inside Press Clubs.. I mean to get very
>>>> politically
>>>> > sensitive pictures of toothless but radical *Pambs*... and if with
>>>> sound
>>>> > bites. it would've been very interesting..
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:01 PM, James Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > > Jokes are almost always about our class-caste prejudices. Can anyone
>>>> > > suggest a politically correct joke please?
>>>> > > Or is it that people can't joke in this part of the world?
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > > 2008/10/22 jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> >
>>>> > > exactly !!
>>>> > >> *when will we wake up to the class-caste prejudices that are deeply
>>>> > >> embedded in our jokes, images and analysis ????
>>>> > >> *
>>>> > >> jenny
>>>> >
>>>> > >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese <
>>>>
>>>>  > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >>> The "page 3" ones who sits and drink scotches and vomit in their
>>>> > >>> luxurious flushes is a luxury.....
>>>> >
>>>> > >>> The representation is pathetic. Devika please do not translate and
>>>> if
>>>> > >>> at all do not exhibit the photos please......
>>>> >
>>>> > >>> On Oct 22, 12:32 pm, "ranju radha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> > >>> > there are some other kinds of "snakes" who have national claim
>>>> to be
>>>> > >>> THE
>>>> > >>> > SNAKE. but those fotos may not be available for circulation. It
>>>> would
>>>> > >>> be
>>>> > >>> > very kind to organise a national excibition once THE WE get
>>>> those
>>>> > >>> photos for
>>>> > >>> > circulation.
>>>> >
>>>> > >>> > regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> >
>

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