Hello, Afthab, so you are not disturbed by a 'pavam policukaran' being
laughed at? Dare you to replace him with DGP?
shahina
On 10/22/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jenny,
>
> even as I agree with you. may I ask you a few doubts:
>
> Let us take any joke for that matter.. do you think it will only
> communicate one dimensionally through all generations? I don't have a
> example right now. what I mean a joke which served one peculiar ideological
> purpose in one time may can have directly opposing purpose in another. In
> the sense that one time power structure serving joke used in altogether
> different context may be challenging the power or any structure. I don't
> have an example in this regard now.
>
> {I am reminded not of a joke. But a poem. Kuthirakumbo by Ayyappa Panicker.
> It was read by Harris as a politcal poem in the emergency context. Satchi
> mash reiterated this argument and Harris himself challenged it by reading it
> in altogether different dimension} .
>
> ( Jenny, I will be happy if you this time would not call my scrap as
> "academic poetry", Pls.)
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:07 PM, jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Friends,
>>
>> Every joke, namboodiri, lower caste, or sexist has an ideological
>> purpose..
>>
>> So the problem is not with joking, the problem is with the ideology
>> associated with jokes.
>>
>> Ideologically i stand against hegemonic power structures..
>> So i get lots of pleasure in making direct fun of these power structures.
>> (without using subalterns as scape goats)
>>
>> Let me say from my memory one joke, which always makes me laugh
>> especially in the context of what happens around.. in every field,
>> including academics..
>>
>> *This is from a Mimicry program. Here a man is asking Kalabhavan Mani
>> some questions in a job interview.
>>
>> Man: 1995 America Bahiraakashathekku oru pattiye vittu. Athine patti
>> ningalude abhipraayam??
>> (In 1995, America sent a dog to space, what do you think of it?)
>>
>> Kalabhavan Mani: Pokkividaan aalundenkil ethu pattikkum mukalil ethaam.
>> (If there is someone to help you up, any dog can reach the top)
>> * *
>> *I think this is a very political joke and is against dominant
>> structures,
>> and does not hurt anyone but those who are in power...
>> i can't stop laughing when i hear such jokes..
>> it helps me vent my anger too ...
>>
>> there are many feminist jokes like this too-
>>
>> so the point is not about joking, but about the purposes which a joke
>> serves and who it hurts and uses...
>>
>> are we going to say we need not think about this?
>> then WHY do analysis, politics, cultural studies?
>> can't we just sit back and relax in various pleasure domes
>> and keep on laughing even when the joke is on US???
>>
>> jenny
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Shahina KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>
>>> what about 'Namboori phalitham' ? Is it politcally correct?
>>>
>>> shahina
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/22/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As a project one can analyze all the presently available jokes and seek
>>>> proscribing of all those caste-class prejudiced jokes and supply a new
>>>> collection of politically correct jokes..
>>>>
>>>> I think as a model definitely Stalin must have done this along with
>>>> Zhadanov..
>>>>
>>>> The consequences of an innocuous joke like Long Live Trotsky was a
>>>> disaster in post- soviet union invaded Prague. I think every one has read
>>>> it!!
>>>>
>>>> Or if this model is limiting, one can also look at the neo-peasantry
>>>> model of POL POT where laughter itself was politically wrong!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese <
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> James not onle our class caste.... there are many prejudices........
>>>>>
>>>>> when i come across a politically correct joke Ill post it ok
>>>>>
>>>>> first try laughing at one's self... this is a recommendation
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 22, 2:43 pm, "damodar prasad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> > Is camera permitted inside Press Clubs.. I mean to get very
>>>>> politically
>>>>> > sensitive pictures of toothless but radical *Pambs*... and if with
>>>>> sound
>>>>> > bites. it would've been very interesting..
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:01 PM, James Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > > Jokes are almost always about our class-caste prejudices. Can
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> > > suggest a politically correct joke please?
>>>>> > > Or is it that people can't joke in this part of the world?
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> > > 2008/10/22 jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > exactly !!
>>>>> > >> *when will we wake up to the class-caste prejudices that are
>>>>> deeply
>>>>> > >> embedded in our jokes, images and analysis ????
>>>>> > >> *
>>>>> > >> jenny
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese <
>>>>>
>>>>> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>> The "page 3" ones who sits and drink scotches and vomit in their
>>>>> > >>> luxurious flushes is a luxury.....
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>> The representation is pathetic. Devika please do not translate
>>>>> and if
>>>>> > >>> at all do not exhibit the photos please......
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>> On Oct 22, 12:32 pm, "ranju radha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>> > >>> > there are some other kinds of "snakes" who have national claim
>>>>> to be
>>>>> > >>> THE
>>>>> > >>> > SNAKE. but those fotos may not be available for circulation. It
>>>>> would
>>>>> > >>> be
>>>>> > >>> > very kind to organise a national excibition once THE WE get
>>>>> those
>>>>> > >>> photos for
>>>>> > >>> > circulation.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>> > regards
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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