Jenny,
even as I agree with you. may I ask you a few doubts:
Let us take any joke for that matter.. do you think it will only communicate
one dimensionally through all generations? I don't have a example right now.
what I mean a joke which served one peculiar ideological purpose in one time
may can have directly opposing purpose in another. In the sense that one
time power structure serving joke used in altogether different context may
be challenging the power or any structure. I don't have an example in this
regard now.
{I am reminded not of a joke. But a poem. Kuthirakumbo by Ayyappa Panicker.
It was read by Harris as a politcal poem in the emergency context. Satchi
mash reiterated this argument and Harris himself challenged it by reading it
in altogether different dimension} .
( Jenny, I will be happy if you this time would not call my scrap as
"academic poetry", Pls.)
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 4:07 PM, jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Friends,
>
> Every joke, namboodiri, lower caste, or sexist has an ideological purpose..
>
>
> So the problem is not with joking, the problem is with the ideology
> associated with jokes.
>
> Ideologically i stand against hegemonic power structures..
> So i get lots of pleasure in making direct fun of these power structures.
> (without using subalterns as scape goats)
>
> Let me say from my memory one joke, which always makes me laugh
> especially in the context of what happens around.. in every field,
> including academics..
>
> *This is from a Mimicry program. Here a man is asking Kalabhavan Mani some
> questions in a job interview.
>
> Man: 1995 America Bahiraakashathekku oru pattiye vittu. Athine patti
> ningalude abhipraayam??
> (In 1995, America sent a dog to space, what do you think of it?)
>
> Kalabhavan Mani: Pokkividaan aalundenkil ethu pattikkum mukalil ethaam.
> (If there is someone to help you up, any dog can reach the top)
> **
> *I think this is a very political joke and is against dominant structures,
>
> and does not hurt anyone but those who are in power...
> i can't stop laughing when i hear such jokes..
> it helps me vent my anger too ...
>
> there are many feminist jokes like this too-
>
> so the point is not about joking, but about the purposes which a joke
> serves and who it hurts and uses...
>
> are we going to say we need not think about this?
> then WHY do analysis, politics, cultural studies?
> can't we just sit back and relax in various pleasure domes
> and keep on laughing even when the joke is on US???
>
> jenny
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Shahina KK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> what about 'Namboori phalitham' ? Is it politcally correct?
>>
>> shahina
>>
>>
>> On 10/22/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> As a project one can analyze all the presently available jokes and seek
>>> proscribing of all those caste-class prejudiced jokes and supply a new
>>> collection of politically correct jokes..
>>>
>>> I think as a model definitely Stalin must have done this along with
>>> Zhadanov..
>>>
>>> The consequences of an innocuous joke like Long Live Trotsky was a
>>> disaster in post- soviet union invaded Prague. I think every one has read
>>> it!!
>>>
>>> Or if this model is limiting, one can also look at the neo-peasantry
>>> model of POL POT where laughter itself was politically wrong!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese <
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> James not onle our class caste.... there are many prejudices........
>>>>
>>>> when i come across a politically correct joke Ill post it ok
>>>>
>>>> first try laughing at one's self... this is a recommendation
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 22, 2:43 pm, "damodar prasad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> > Is camera permitted inside Press Clubs.. I mean to get very
>>>> politically
>>>> > sensitive pictures of toothless but radical *Pambs*... and if with
>>>> sound
>>>> > bites. it would've been very interesting..
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 3:01 PM, James Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > > Jokes are almost always about our class-caste prejudices. Can anyone
>>>> > > suggest a politically correct joke please?
>>>> > > Or is it that people can't joke in this part of the world?
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> > > 2008/10/22 jenny rowena <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> >
>>>> > > exactly !!
>>>> > >> *when will we wake up to the class-caste prejudices that are deeply
>>>> > >> embedded in our jokes, images and analysis ????
>>>> > >> *
>>>> > >> jenny
>>>> >
>>>> > >> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Anil Tharayath Varghese <
>>>>
>>>> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > >>> The "page 3" ones who sits and drink scotches and vomit in their
>>>> > >>> luxurious flushes is a luxury.....
>>>> >
>>>> > >>> The representation is pathetic. Devika please do not translate and
>>>> if
>>>> > >>> at all do not exhibit the photos please......
>>>> >
>>>> > >>> On Oct 22, 12:32 pm, "ranju radha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> > >>> > there are some other kinds of "snakes" who have national claim
>>>> to be
>>>> > >>> THE
>>>> > >>> > SNAKE. but those fotos may not be available for circulation. It
>>>> would
>>>> > >>> be
>>>> > >>> > very kind to organise a national excibition once THE WE get
>>>> those
>>>> > >>> photos for
>>>> > >>> > circulation.
>>>> >
>>>> > >>> > regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
> >
>
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