Damodar, i agree with u. Belief in fact removes the critical understanding of any idea/theory and it paves way for "religious orthodoxy and fanaticism" to take over. Look how fast ramanan cought me with the word "belief". That is why i have to explain the way i used it. i wanted to address 'belief' the way it s been used. slighlty polemical as usual, u know that well. To make it clear i wanted to say I belive in Foucault than Sreeram. Prefer to use "Jai Foucault" than "jai sreeram"... i wanted to challenge belief with belief. The polemical articulation of all ideologies have its own victories and failures. so as this as well that polemical game apart, it would be suicidal if i really "belive" in foucault et al/ and not critically locate those theories wihithn my own questions of inquiry. 100% agree with u,
thanks regards On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:29 PM, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Renju, > > I am not sure how will you consider my following question. Anyway I will > risk asking it. > I have seen you use the word "belief" and "believe" in your postings > consistently. > My doubt is regarding the same. > For example, If I say I believe Bobby. This means I trust Booby because of > my personal understanding of not only his relation with me but also on > account of his positions/ideas etc. > There is a personal element to this "belief" and this trust is essential > in/for a relation and is not contractual. There are also contractual trust > as in case of entering into partnerships. > > But can we say the same in case of ideology or discourse? For eg: Can we > say I "believe" in Marx or Marxism. Does not this cancel out our critical > faculty to engage with thinkers Indian, Malayalee, French or any nation.. > > D.Prasad > > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:18 PM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> i am proud of that culture which in every inch led the freedom movement >> against Brahminsm and hindu colonisation; which does not believe in Akhanda >> bharat and hindu rashtra; >> >> when i say belief in foucalt et al, it means that these >> human beings/scholars are more humanitarian and therefore can be "belived" >> than those 30000000 lakhs gods and goddesses.. >> i have no problm if u belive the way u belive in any Indian gods. >> >> for me that indian god can never be nandan nilekani or kalam or narayana >> murthy >> >> i would prefer to belive in M F Husain and his paintings than these >> unimaginative Hindutva pawns. this is my opinion, not belief. >> >> but i belive in one thing; That is the hindu colonisation process will see >> its end soon. *It *has to be.. This actually is a belief. And this belief >> can only create India for all sections of society. >> So debrahminise and dehinduise to become a human being!! This is my >> belief> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Ramanan KP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 8:55 AM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> > pls read it as; >>> > >>> > I can't be proud of such a culture. so, i would like to belive >>> foucalt, >>> > hooks, marx, stuart hall et al. (but NOT the way postcolonialists used >>> it) >>> > >>> - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December 25th , 1927 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > -- " The so called caste-hindus are bitterly opposed to the depressed class using a public tank not because they really believe that the water will be thereby spoiled or will evaporate but because they are afraid of losing their superiority of caste and of equality being established between the former and the latter. We are resorting to this satyagraha not becasue we believe that the water of this particular tank has any exceptional qualities, but to establish our natural rights as citizens and human beings." - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December 25th , 1927 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
