to ramanan,

first of all i have full regard for mulltinational brands. unlike the
swadeshi counterparts they show some maturity and democratic credentials.
and, i could find not any swadeshi brand who can compete with these
multinationals as well. moreover, i could EXPERIENCE the philosophy of
opportuism or to be precise the philosophy of brahminism (synonm for
Brahminsm/Hinduism) in swadeshi. brahminism is historiclly constructed based
of the "philosophy of opposrtunism"
the ilk of nandan nilekani, praveen TERROR togadia, narayan murthy, abdul
kalam etc to the great Shankarcharyar are/were mimicry artists to the core.
I respect mimicry artists. But one should not mistaken saju kodiyan for
innocent or vajpayee. right?
The art of mimicry has a polemical value. I respect that. In a society of
polemical overflow it does a philosophers role. but are we satisfied?

and, regarding the idea of India, (i can only talk abt India and not abt
china) the hindu colonisation of indian culture is the main reason many of
the problms faced by us now. I think, there is no need for me to open
history book and tell u wht the idea of INDIA had done/has been doing to
Dalits, adivasis, the Muslims, to the  Northeast, to kashmir, to the
lankans, to the women ..... the list is endless. the kind of tyrrany
perpetuated is equivalent to any global terror/crime...

When will we, as a society knee down and say SORRY to the whole world of
humanity for the crimes committed by the "culture of integration". I can't
be proud of such a culture. so, i would like to belive foucalt, hooks, marx,
stuart hall et al.  (but the way postcolonialists used it) rather than
sankara, kalam, togadia, modi, advani, parameswaran, kummanay rajasekharan
kind of swadeshi brands. sorry dear, let me be a foreign stooge than a
swadeshi slave,
one more thing, in order to promote swadeshi brand, why the sagh
intellectuals need fund and intellectual support from Germany, UK and US ?
why, the swadeshi doesn't have enough intellect to articulate? what happend
to the "meritorious" Scriptural intellect that spread the venom of
brahminical opportunism and communal strife in society? I think it s been
successfully preserved in the knwoledge industry. is it so useless. We the
poor meritless ineffiecient slaves of this soceity can lend  some intellect
and merit, if needed. but on our conditions.

regards

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Ramanan KP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
>  On 11/25/08, Maya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  cant save myself from saying that its really good that ranju  write these
>> ideas here. I think almost the same way sometimes while we go so rigid in
>> mind about matter of facts , while discussing about something...May be the
>> 'myth and meaning' by Claude Levi-strauss is so relevant for these type of
>> discussions.. A structuralist who celebrates his 100th birthday this 28th!
>>
>
> Levistrauss  and Nike are multinational brands. They have the philosophy of
> opportunism. why are you promoting that? Why dont you look for models in
> India?
>
> "A Common grouse we have in India is how slow we are- to reform, adapt and
> change, especially compared to our neighbour China. But my belief is that
> while democracies may be slow, they are also more cautious than autocracies,
> and this makes them less prone to committing truly egregious errors"  Nandan
> Nilekani ,Imagining India.
>
> How true it is? India does not do something like China does. And what will
> Levistrauss and Ranjuradha say on this?
>
> Ramanan KP
>
>
> >
>


-- 
" The so called caste-hindus are bitterly opposed to the depressed class
using a public tank not because they really believe that the water will be
thereby spoiled or will evaporate but because they are afraid of losing
their superiority of caste and of equality being established between the
former and the latter. We are resorting to this satyagraha not becasue we
believe that the water of this particular tank has any exceptional
qualities, but to establish our natural rights as citizens and human
beings."

- Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December 25th , 1927

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