Scriptures read and transmitted through generations as in case of "oothu pallikodum" ( with the "othikkans" as scriptural authorities) has been a practice till the emergence of modern institution for human transference of knowledge. The knowledge transmitted as in the previous case was stale. Critical engagement is intricate to any human inquiry- religious or secular.
When I used the word modern, It may exacerbate a tension on divergent understandings of what constitutes modern. To lessen the tension, I may add that modern institution like Party Study Classes are no better or different from the "oothupallikodums". D.Prasad On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 1:48 PM, salimtk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is belief antagonistic to critical engagement? what about Divine Ontology > we/some relenetlessly engage critically through out our lives? Problemizing > our own beliefs and our relationship with the Divine Spirit? the > con/textualized reading of religious scriptures in reference to the > social/worldly justice? > > > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:37 AM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Damodar, >> >> i agree with u. Belief in fact removes the critical understanding of any >> idea/theory and it paves way for "religious orthodoxy and fanaticism" to >> take over. Look how fast ramanan cought me with the word "belief". That is >> why i have to explain the way i used it. i wanted to address 'belief' the >> way it s been used. slighlty polemical as usual, u know that well. To make >> it clear i wanted to say I belive in Foucault than Sreeram. Prefer to use >> "Jai Foucault" than "jai sreeram"... i wanted to challenge belief with >> belief. The polemical articulation of all ideologies have its own victories >> and failures. so as this as well >> that polemical game apart, it would be suicidal if i really "belive" in >> foucault et al/ and not critically locate those theories wihithn my own >> questions of inquiry. >> 100% agree with u, >> >> thanks >> >> regards >> >> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:29 PM, damodar prasad < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Renju, >>> >>> I am not sure how will you consider my following question. Anyway I will >>> risk asking it. >>> I have seen you use the word "belief" and "believe" in your postings >>> consistently. >>> My doubt is regarding the same. >>> For example, If I say I believe Bobby. This means I trust Booby because >>> of my personal understanding of not only his relation with me but also on >>> account of his positions/ideas etc. >>> There is a personal element to this "belief" and this trust is essential >>> in/for a relation and is not contractual. There are also contractual trust >>> as in case of entering into partnerships. >>> >>> But can we say the same in case of ideology or discourse? For eg: Can we >>> say I "believe" in Marx or Marxism. Does not this cancel out our critical >>> faculty to engage with thinkers Indian, Malayalee, French or any nation.. >>> >>> D.Prasad >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:18 PM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >>> >>>> i am proud of that culture which in every inch led the freedom >>>> movement against Brahminsm and hindu colonisation; which does not believe >>>> in >>>> Akhanda bharat and hindu rashtra; >>>> >>>> when i say belief in foucalt et al, it means that these >>>> human beings/scholars are more humanitarian and therefore can be "belived" >>>> than those 30000000 lakhs gods and goddesses.. >>>> i have no problm if u belive the way u belive in any Indian gods. >>>> >>>> for me that indian god can never be nandan nilekani or kalam or narayana >>>> murthy >>>> >>>> i would prefer to belive in M F Husain and his paintings than these >>>> unimaginative Hindutva pawns. this is my opinion, not belief. >>>> >>>> but i belive in one thing; That is the hindu colonisation process will >>>> see its end soon. *It *has to be.. This actually is a belief. And this >>>> belief can only create India for all sections of society. >>>> So debrahminise and dehinduise to become a human being!! This is my >>>> belief> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Ramanan KP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 8:55 AM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > pls read it as; >>>>> > >>>>> > I can't be proud of such a culture. so, i would like to belive >>>>> foucalt, >>>>> > hooks, marx, stuart hall et al. (but NOT the way postcolonialists >>>>> used it) >>>>> > >>>>> - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December 25th , 1927 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December 25th , 1927 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
