is belief antagonistic to critical engagement? what about Divine Ontology we/some relenetlessly engage critically through out our lives? Problemizing our own beliefs and our relationship with the Divine Spirit? the con/textualized reading of religious scriptures in reference to the social/worldly justice?
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:37 AM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Damodar, > > i agree with u. Belief in fact removes the critical understanding of any > idea/theory and it paves way for "religious orthodoxy and fanaticism" to > take over. Look how fast ramanan cought me with the word "belief". That is > why i have to explain the way i used it. i wanted to address 'belief' the > way it s been used. slighlty polemical as usual, u know that well. To make > it clear i wanted to say I belive in Foucault than Sreeram. Prefer to use > "Jai Foucault" than "jai sreeram"... i wanted to challenge belief with > belief. The polemical articulation of all ideologies have its own victories > and failures. so as this as well > that polemical game apart, it would be suicidal if i really "belive" in > foucault et al/ and not critically locate those theories wihithn my own > questions of inquiry. > 100% agree with u, > > thanks > > regards > > On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:29 PM, damodar prasad < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Renju, >> >> I am not sure how will you consider my following question. Anyway I will >> risk asking it. >> I have seen you use the word "belief" and "believe" in your postings >> consistently. >> My doubt is regarding the same. >> For example, If I say I believe Bobby. This means I trust Booby because of >> my personal understanding of not only his relation with me but also on >> account of his positions/ideas etc. >> There is a personal element to this "belief" and this trust is essential >> in/for a relation and is not contractual. There are also contractual trust >> as in case of entering into partnerships. >> >> But can we say the same in case of ideology or discourse? For eg: Can we >> say I "believe" in Marx or Marxism. Does not this cancel out our critical >> faculty to engage with thinkers Indian, Malayalee, French or any nation.. >> >> D.Prasad >> >> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:18 PM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> >>> i am proud of that culture which in every inch led the freedom movement >>> against Brahminsm and hindu colonisation; which does not believe in Akhanda >>> bharat and hindu rashtra; >>> >>> when i say belief in foucalt et al, it means that these >>> human beings/scholars are more humanitarian and therefore can be "belived" >>> than those 30000000 lakhs gods and goddesses.. >>> i have no problm if u belive the way u belive in any Indian gods. >>> >>> for me that indian god can never be nandan nilekani or kalam or narayana >>> murthy >>> >>> i would prefer to belive in M F Husain and his paintings than these >>> unimaginative Hindutva pawns. this is my opinion, not belief. >>> >>> but i belive in one thing; That is the hindu colonisation process will >>> see its end soon. *It *has to be.. This actually is a belief. And this >>> belief can only create India for all sections of society. >>> So debrahminise and dehinduise to become a human being!! This is my >>> belief> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Ramanan KP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 8:55 AM, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > pls read it as; >>>> > >>>> > I can't be proud of such a culture. so, i would like to belive >>>> foucalt, >>>> > hooks, marx, stuart hall et al. (but NOT the way postcolonialists >>>> used it) >>>> > >>>> - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December 25th , 1927 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December 25th , 1927 >> >> >> >> >> >> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/greenyouth?hl=en-GB -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
