yes,the over all dominance of this brahmnic-upper caste dominance is being neglected.And they forget how the caste system works now? i remember the criticism of sharat patil against EMS(on reservation,and the failure to address the importance of subaltern social reformers of india etc).
--- On Tue, 31/3/09, ranju radha <[email protected]> wrote: > From: ranju radha <[email protected]> > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Slums of India.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > To: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 9:07 PM > > caste has very little to do with occuppation, i > think > that s why a Brahmin Director of IIT like Indiresan > and a Brahmin beggar in the strets believe that they are > superior and meritorious and practise it religiously > > one can even observe how Brahmin subordinates behave > with Dalit/OBC bosses.. > so typical EMSisn way of looking at caste will lead to > Katju only > unfortunately, we have more katjus around > > > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:15 PM, > C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > justice katju's position is like dipankar gupta...a > dominant trend of indian society-----caste has lost its > traditional role ,politicians use it for vested interests > ,caste and its relation with occuption is changing. > > > > > > --- On Tue, 31/3/09, ranju radha <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > From: ranju radha <[email protected]> > > > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Slums of > India.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 4:56 PM > > > by the by, sanjeev, why do u > > think that all the "anti-social" elements > > will have a membersship in greenyouth? > (....hahaha..)... > > > > > > in fact this Katju is that katju who wrote series of > > > artcles in The Hindu elaboratig the greatness of > caste > > system! > > > > great secularist indeed!! > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:22 PM, S > > sanjeev <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is this katju guy a > > member of greenyouth? > > remember, the debate > > here sometime ago that bearded guys are anti-social > elements > > who live in utopia:-) > > > > > --- On Tue, 31/3/09, ranju radha <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > From: ranju radha <[email protected]> > > > > > > > Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Slums of > > India.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 10:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in fact, even indian > > > judiciary wont let you claim that > > status. > > see justice KAtju's > > brahimnical secular stand that stereotypes > > 'muslim' > > pathetic! > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.hindu.com/2009/03/31/stories/2009033159561000.htm > > > > > > > > > > Secularism > > cannot be overstretched: Justice Katju > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Delhi: Rejecting the plea of a Muslim student > that > > he should be permitted to sport beard in his convent > school, > > the Supreme Court on Monday observed that secularism > could > > > not be overstretched and “Talibanisation” of the > country > > could not be permitted. > > > > “We don’t want to have Talibans in the country. > > Tomorrow a girl student may come and say that she > wants to > > > wear a burqa. Can we allow it,” asked Justice > Markandey > > Katju, speaking for a Bench headed by Justice > Raveendran. > > Asserting that he was a secularist to the core, > Justice > > Katju, however, said religious beliefs could not be > > > overstretched. “I am secularist. We should strike a > > balance between rights and personal beliefs. We > cannot > > overstretch secularism.” > > Plea dismissed > > > > > > Justice Katju made these observations while > dismissing > > > the petition by Mohammad Salim of the Nirmala Convent > Higher > > Secondary School, a government-recognised minority > > institution in Madhya Pradesh, for quashing its > regulation > > requiring students to be clean shaven. Challenging a > Madhya > > > Pradesh High Court verdict that earlier dismissed his > plea, > > Salim said every citizen was entitled to follow his > > religious principles and no one should restrain him > from > > doing so in a secular country. > > > > > Salim’s counsel Justice (retired) B.A. Khan argued > > that sporting a beard was an indispensable part of > Islam. > > > > “But you [Justice Khan] don’t sport a beard,” > > Justice Katju told counsel. > > > The court then said a minority institution had its > own > > set of rules and rights provided by Article 30 of the > > Constitution and the same could not be breached by > any > > person. “If there are rules you have to obey. You > can’t > > > say that I will not wear a uniform I will [wear] only > a > > burqa,” the Bench observed. > > > > The court said if the student was not interested in > > following the rules he would have the option of > joining some > > > other institution. “But you can’t ask the school > to > > change the rules for you.” — PTI > > > > > > > > > > > - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha > Conference, December > > 25th , 1927 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! > Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ > > > > > > > > - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December > 25th , 1927 > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger.yahoo.com/invite/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. 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