but occupation is used as a tool of repression. the hindu notion of "dharma "
was does not signify "duty" but the economic and political superiority of the 
high caste 
over low caste. considering caste system as way of economic exploitation , 
there is relation between occupation and caste .  
 
 
 
, 31/3/09, ranju radha <[email protected]> wrote:


From: ranju radha <[email protected]>
Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Slums of India.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 9:07 PM



 
caste has very little to do with occuppation, i think
that s why a Brahmin Director of IIT like Indiresan and a Brahmin beggar in the 
strets believe that they are superior and meritorious and practise it 
religiously
 
one can even observe how Brahmin subordinates behave with Dalit/OBC bosses..
so typical EMSisn way of looking at caste will lead to Katju only
unfortunately, we have more katjus around
 


 
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:15 PM, C.K. Vishwanath <[email protected]> 
wrote:



justice katju's position is like dipankar gupta...a dominant trend of indian 
society-----caste has lost its traditional role ,politicians use it for vested 
interests ,caste and its relation with occuption is changing.




--- On Tue, 31/3/09, ranju radha <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: ranju radha <[email protected]>
> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Slums of India.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 4:56 PM

> by the by, sanjeev, why do u
> think that all the "anti-social" elements
> will have a membersship in greenyouth? (....hahaha..)..
>
>  
> in fact this Katju is that katju who wrote series of
> artcles in The Hindu elaboratig the greatness of caste
> system! 
>  
> great secularist indeed!! 
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:22 PM, S
> sanjeev <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> is this katju guy a
> member of greenyouth?
> remember, the debate
> here sometime ago that bearded guys are anti-social elements
> who live in utopia:-)
>
> --- On Tue, 31/3/09, ranju radha <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>
> From: ranju radha <[email protected]>
>
>
> Subject: [GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Slums of
> India.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009, 10:24 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> in fact, even indian
> judiciary wont let you claim that
> status.
> see justice KAtju's
> brahimnical secular stand that stereotypes
> 'muslim'
> pathetic!
>  
>  
>  
>  
> http://www.hindu.com/2009/03/31/stories/2009033159561000.htm
>
>  
>  
>  
> Secularism
> cannot be overstretched: Justice Katju
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> New Delhi: Rejecting the plea of a Muslim student that
> he should be permitted to sport beard in his convent school,
> the Supreme Court on Monday observed that secularism could
> not be overstretched and “Talibanisation” of the country
> could not be permitted.
>
> “We don’t want to have Talibans in the country.
> Tomorrow a girl student may come and say that she wants to
> wear a burqa. Can we allow it,” asked Justice Markandey
> Katju, speaking for a Bench headed by Justice Raveendran.
> Asserting that he was a secularist to the core, Justice
> Katju, however, said religious beliefs could not be
> overstretched. “I am secularist. We should strike a
> balance between rights and personal beliefs. We cannot
> overstretch secularism.”
> Plea dismissed
>
>
> Justice Katju made these observations while dismissing
> the petition by Mohammad Salim of the Nirmala Convent Higher
> Secondary School, a government-recognised minority
> institution in Madhya Pradesh, for quashing its regulation
> requiring students to be clean shaven. Challenging a Madhya
> Pradesh High Court verdict that earlier dismissed his plea,
> Salim said every citizen was entitled to follow his
> religious principles and no one should restrain him from
> doing so in a secular country.
>
> Salim’s counsel Justice (retired) B.A. Khan argued
> that sporting a beard was an indispensable part of Islam.
>
> “But you [Justice Khan] don’t sport a beard,”
> Justice Katju told counsel.
> The court then said a minority institution had its own
> set of rules and rights provided by Article 30 of the
> Constitution and the same could not be breached by any
> person. “If there are rules you have to obey. You can’t
> say that I will not wear a uniform I will [wear] only a
> burqa,” the Bench observed.
>
> The court said if the student was not interested in
> following the rules he would have the option of joining some
> other institution. “But you can’t ask the school to
> change the rules for you.” — PTI
>
>
>
>

> - Dr B.R. Ambedkar, Mahad Satyagraha Conference, December
> 25th , 1927
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>


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