Dear Aaron,

To start, I entirely agree, adding Ben. neumes is WAY larger a project
then adding St. Gall or Laon, and doing it as a seperate development
effort seems entirely reasonable.

Ok! I think it's good though to think about it from now on, in order to define an input syntax that will be able to include it.

I would say, ignoring orthographical differences between manuscripts,

Do you think it's reasonable to provide only one "orthograph" for the neumes? Will users manage to get what they want? If it's the case then it already simplifies a lot! Sister Maria, would this suit your needs too?

these would be the key Beneventan Neumes (consider this a rough draft,
I'll try to get something better on the wiki)

Oh, great, thank you!

1 Note: 3 forms, no heights
2 note:
        3 forms(2 forms of Pes, one of clivus), 4 intervals for each (I've
never seen a neume with a larger jump then a fifth, so I'm using that as
the max of an interval)

These indications are really precious!

3 note:
        Torculus: 1 form, 4*4 intervals (as much as a leap of a fifth to the
second note, and then down as much as a fifth to the 3rd)
        porrectus: 2 forms (flat front line, angled front line), same 4*4 
intervals
        climacus: 1 form (one shape for 3 notes)
        I'd say there are 4 forms each of the following ascending neumes

Do you mean 4 different forms of each, each having 4*4 possibilities, or just 4 different forms?

        Scandicus
        Salicus
        quillisma
        pressus
4 note :
        climacus: 1 form

Idem: just one form or 4*4*4 with the ambitus?

After some thoughts, it seems quite reasonable, thought drawing all these glyphs would require a considerable amount of time, it's not a real difficulty.

This is not exhaustive, there's no liquessence, which would add an order
of magnitude

It would be interesting to see which neumes have a liquescent form... Also, did you count the episemus in your key neumes?

and none of the crazy compound neumes (see
http://mt.wiglaf.org/aaronm/assets_c/2013/02/Cassino-Montecassino-Page%20of%20Tones0242-2419.html
6 lines from the bottom for some sample compound neumes)

Yes, this is definitely crazy, for me the only way to get them is to isolate pictures of all possible "crazy" neumes and make a database, referencing all neumes of all manuscripts, with a number and then make the users call these numbers. This wouldn't be too complex: since the Paléographie Musicale has already a good bibliography, we would just have to add a page on the wiki with a table containg a picture of the neumes, the index in P.M.'s bibliography and the page number. Then users would just fill the table with whatever they find, and draw the glyph in the font.

What do you think?

Thank you!
--
Elie

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