Interesting discussion, coming from the VPN space the selection of an AS as a 
global or regional value has been a long discussion.. For better or worse AS 
value per region forces a different paradigm than AS per global.. In the VPN 
space we take great pains to not affect the AS or AS-Path at is meaningful to 
customers. IMO AIGP is for more useful for selection for certain applications 
i.e 3107..

Jim Uttaro

-----Original Message-----
From: GROW [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Haas
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 3:02 PM
To: Nick Hilliard <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]; Job Snijders <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GROW] Route Server ASN stripping hiding considered harmful?

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 01:04:03PM +0000, Nick Hilliard wrote:
> It's also common practice for transit providers to use a single ASN
> spanning the globe e.g. 174, 2914, 3356, etc. What you're describing
> here is an aspect of the fact that that as-pathlen has not been a useful
> determinant for the bgp decision engine for many years.

While somewhat orthogonal to this discussion, path length (and thus
prepending) is about the only useful knob many BGP speakers have to try to
bias incoming traffic.  I suspect you mean something a bit different above.

> Updating rfc4271 would be more productive - and getting IXPs to filter
> ingress bgp feeds by default.

I hope to be retired before that level of "incremental update" is expected
to work in the Internet at large. :-)

-- Jeff

P.S. many providers provide knobs to ignore path length as a consideration.
No spec work is required.

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